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Old 04-07-2009, 04:42 PM   #16
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From your list I like Boytsov and Solis. The can be world champion in future, the others are limited and nothink special ...
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Tyson Fury is the probally the best young heavy we have but I still can't see him becoming a world champion.

Others to watch out for would be Derek Chisora, Tom Dallas and Olmpic Bronze Medalist David Price.
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Old 04-08-2009, 06:42 PM   #18
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Tyson Fury is the probally the best young heavy we have but I still can't see him becoming a world champion.

Others to watch out for would be Derek Chisora, Tom Dallas and Olmpic Bronze Medalist David Price.
About your british fighter, write in the british forum and there you can compare them.

Tyson Fury its like brother of Luca Tony.

Be real and give you idea about world prospect today, if you want ?
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:48 AM   #19
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17. Malik Scott- He should retire. He has had long enough.

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Don't know if we are talking about the same fighter here, but I meant the 28 year old kid from Phily, promoted by Goosen.

his boxrec information:

boxer: Malik Scott

Global ID 35680

birth date 1980-10-16age
division heavyweight
rating [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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country United States
residence Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
birth name Dohonna Malik Scott
stance orthodox
height 6′ 4″ / 193cm
US ID 059463
won 32 (KO 11) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 32
rounds boxed 183 : KO% 34.38
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:24 PM   #20
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Don't know if we are talking about the same fighter here, but I meant the 28 year old kid from Phily, promoted by Goosen.

We sure are. He has been fighting for nine years, and is in exactly the same spot as he was when he began. He ought to quit because its obvious that he is not serious.

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boxer: Malik Scott

Global ID 35680

birth date 1980-10-16age
division heavyweight
rating [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
country United States
residence Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
birth name Dohonna Malik Scott
stance orthodox
height 6′ 4″ / 193cm
US ID 059463
won 32 (KO 11) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 32
rounds boxed 183 : KO% 34.38[/quote]



boxer: Malik Scott
Global ID 35680
suspensions report
*** male
birth date 1980-10-16
age 28
manager/agent register
division heavyweight
rating 35 / 1093
16 / 430
rating country United States
residence Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
birth name Dohonna Malik Scott
stance orthodox
height 6′ 4″ / 193cm
US ID 059463
won 32 (KO 11) + lost 0 (KO 0) + drawn 0 = 32
rounds boxed 183 : KO% 34.38
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bouts
Lb St Kg ↑date↓ print

date Lb opponent Lb W-L-D last 6 location
2008-12-13 255 Raphael Butler 265 34-7-0
Morongo Casino Resort & Spa, Cabazon, California, United States W UD 8 8
~ referee: Pat Russell | judge: Tony Crebs 80-72 | judge: Marty Denkin 80-72 | judge: David Mendoza 79-73 ~

2008-07-18 247 Arthur Cook 252 13-3-2
Buffalo Bill's Star Arena, Primm, Nevada, United States W TKO 7 8
~ time: 2:46 | referee: Toby Gibson ~

2007-12-11 248 Damian Norris 224 10-4-0
Crazy Horse Saloon, Miami, Florida, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Frank Gentile | judge: John Rupert 100-89 | judge: Peter Trematerra 100-89 | judge: Michael Pernick 100-89 ~

2007-07-20 249 Sedreck Fields 233 22-31-2
Mahai Temple, Miami, Florida, United States W UD 4 4
~ referee: Jorge Alonso | judge: Peter Trematerra | judge: Mark Streisand | judge: Rocky Young ~

2007-05-04 238 Charles Shufford 243 20-6-1
Palms Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 10 10
~ referee: Robert Byrd | judge: C.J. Ross 100-90 | judge: Dave Moretti 99-91 | judge: Glenn Towbridge 99-91 ~

2007-02-22 245 Ramon Hayes 254 15-22-1
Tachi Palace Hotel & Casino, Lemoore, California, United States W UD 8 8
~ 80-72 | 80-72 | 80-72 ~

2006-12-14 249 Andrew Greeley 234 13-14-2
Tachi Palace Hotel & Casino, Lemoore, California, United States W UD 8 8
2006-07-22 255 Marcus McGee 229 15-10-0
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W UD 8 8
~ referee: Lindsey Page | judge: Paul Venti 80-72 | judge: Shafeeq Rashada 80-72 | judge: Lynne Carter 80-72 ~

2006-01-28 236 Kendrick Releford 225 13-6-1
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W UD 8 8
~ referee: Wayne Hedgepeth | judge: Hilton Whitaker 80-72 | judge: Debra Barnes 79-73 | judge: Barbara Perez 79-73 ~

2005-11-19 238 Dennis McKinney 209 27-34-1
Cricket Arena, Charlotte, North Carolina, United States W UD 6 6
~ referee: Al Coley | judge: Joel Dovenbarger 60-52 | judge: Barry Lindenman 60-52 | judge: Tim Gosch 60-52 ~

2005-04-23 239 Shane Swartz 210 16-2-0
Caesars Palace, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W UD 8 8
~ referee: Toby Gibson | judge: Adalaide Byrd 79-72 | judge: Bill Graham 79-72 | judge: Dalby Shirley 79-72 ~

2005-01-29 234 David Bostice 247 33-8-1
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W UD 8 8
~ referee: Ed Johnson | judge: Pierre Benoist 79-73 | judge: Eugenia Williams 79-73 | judge: Paul Venti 78-74 ~

2004-11-04 225 Louis Monaco 210 13-27-4
SBC Center, San Antonio, Texas, United States W UD 8 8
~ judge: Joel Elizondo 80-72 | judge: Anthony Townsend 80-72 | judge: Roy Ovalle 79-73 ~

2004-08-06 226 Drexie James 205 8-6-0
National Guard Armory, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States W KO 1 6
~ time: 2:25 ~

2003-07-26 229 Carlton Johnson 240 15-8-2
Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 8 8
~ 79-72 | 79-72 | 79-72 ~

2003-06-07 235 Otis Tisdale 236 21-10-1
Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W UD 8 8
~ referee: Earl Morton | judge: Jean Williams 80-71 | judge: Hilton Whitaker 80-71 | judge: Pierre Benoist 80-71 ~

2003-04-04 232 Onebo Maxime 221 15-15-0
Fernwood Resort, Bushkill, Pennsylvania, United States W UD 6 6
~ 60-54 | 60-54 | 60-54 ~

2003-02-01 225 Terry McGroom 203 19-4-2
Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, United States W TKO 2 8
~ time: 2:58 | referee: Ken Ezzo | judge: Tom Kaczmarek 10-9 | judge: John Lawson 10-9 | judge: Julie Lederman 10-9 ~

2002-10-19 227 Ken Murphy 226 21-7-1
Reliant Park, Houston, Texas, United States W UD 8 8
2002-08-24 224 Bryan Blakely 210 13-13-1
Ballys Park Place Hotel Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W TKO 1 8
~ time: 2:46 ~

2002-07-13 Lyle McDowell 27-8-1
Sam's Town Casino, Tunica, Mississippi, United States W TKO 7 8
McDowell's corner stops the fight after the 7th

2002-06-08 220 Dan Ward 206 28-11-1
The Pyramid, Memphis, Tennessee, United States W UD 8 8
~ 80-72 | 80-72 | 79-73 ~

2002-04-27 217 Britton Thomas 212 13-6-0
Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, United States W KO 1 8
~ time: 2:01 | referee: Charles Dwyer | judge: Don Ackerman | judge: Steve Epstein | judge: Robert Paolino ~

2002-03-16 Curtis Taylor 7-7-0
Fernwood Resort, Bushkill, Pennsylvania, United States W TKO 3 8
2002-02-02 214 Ramon Hayes 263 6-12-1
Ballys Park Place Hotel Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W UD 6 6
~ referee: Lindsey Page ~

2001-10-13 220 Louis Monaco 232 12-24-3
Tropicana Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey, United States W SD 6 6
~ judge: Al DeVito 56-57 | judge: Ed Leahy 60-54 | 60-54 ~

2001-08-18 221 Ron Brown 243 5-4-1
Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, United States W TKO 2 6
~ time: 2:20 | referee: Matt Mullaney | judge: Don O'Neill | judge: Glenn Feldman | judge: John Lawson ~

2001-06-15 219 Tracy Williams 230 1-4-0
Blue Horizon, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States W UD 4 4
~ 40-36 | 40-36 | 40-36 ~

2001-05-19 218 Robert Anderson 233 4-1-1
Mohegan Sun Casino, Uncasville, Connecticut, United States W TKO 2 4
~ time: 2:23 | referee: James Santa | judge: Glenn Feldman | judge: Julie Lederman | judge: John Lawson ~

2001-03-16 209 Maurice Wheeler 213 1-0-0
Blue Horizon, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States W UD 4 4
2001-02-02 217 Jackie Beard 215 1-0-0
Celeste Center, Columbus, Ohio, United States W TKO 3 4
2000-11-10 213 Tony Foster 219 1-1-0
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino, Las Vegas, Nevada, United States W TKO 2


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Old 04-16-2009, 11:18 PM   #21
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Sad news man, didn't know.

He beat journeyman Raphael Butler the other day, do you think he would have enough to beat a guy like Minto?

Goosen should match him up against Quezada, that way we would know better.


About Fury, there is too much talk about him when he has done squat so far. He only has 5 pro fights.
His future as a contender for one of the major 4 belts is beyound 2010, that's why I didn't mention him.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:33 PM   #22
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Sad news man, didn't know.

He beat journeyman Raphael Butler the other day, do you think he would have enough to beat a guy like Minto?

Goosen should match him up against Quezada, that way we would know better.


About Fury, there is too much talk about him when he has done squat so far. He only has 5 pro fights.
His future as a contender for one of the major 4 belts is beyound 2010, that's why I didn't mention him.
The funny thing is that I had this same conversation about Scott about four years ago with me on the other side. And someone told me: "he's been fighting for five years and he's in the same spot as when he started." Now its nine.

This man lacks confidence because he truly has no power to speak of. Great skills, classy jab and all, but no power. He could easily beat Minto, but he obviously does not have the confidence to do so. He ought to stop wasting his time and ours.

Fury is a great story. A 6'9 Gypsy who comes from a family of fighters and bare-knucklers, named after Mike Tyson and fighting twice a month while calling everyone out. And he's got power. Sure, he's got a beer belly, and no one knows how good he is or isn't, but like Haye, he is his own best promotor.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:55 AM   #23
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No power? that's a legit curse, it's like a handicap at boxing.

Sure he could still be sucessfull if: his defense is top notch, he has great boxing skills, fast hands, superb conditioning and an iron chin. Just see Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Bidenko, K. Johnson for example. Problem is he is nowhere near that, right?

I'm intrigued by the Oloukun vs Charr bout on the 25th, hope I get to watch it live.
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best is perez c his next fight
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Old 04-17-2009, 08:58 PM   #25
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No power? that's a legit curse, it's like a handicap at boxing.

Sure he could still be sucessfull if: his defense is top notch, he has great boxing skills, fast hands, superb conditioning and an iron chin. Just see Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Bidenko, K. Johnson for example. Problem is he is nowhere near that, right?

I'm intrigued by the Oloukun vs Charr bout on the 25th, hope I get to watch it live.
But the point is that the confience isn't there because of it. After nine years he just had his best opponent in raphael Butler.
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Old 04-17-2009, 10:36 PM   #26
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Solis will be fighting Oquendo in May, nice step up for him. Would be nice to see him under 240lbs for the first time in his pro career.

Boytsov is rumored to fight Nolan, who's a journeyman. I think it would be nicer if they set him up with Krasniqi.
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Old 04-18-2009, 02:30 AM   #27
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No power? that's a legit curse, it's like a handicap at boxing.

Sure he could still be sucessfull if: his defense is top notch, he has great boxing skills, fast hands, superb conditioning and an iron chin. Just see Byrd, Eddie Chambers, Bidenko, K. Johnson for example. Problem is he is nowhere near that, right?
Where is Bidenko anyway ... ? Is there a reason why he's so inactive ?
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:10 PM   #28
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Haven't heard from Bidenko in quite a while, his marketing has been shit for too long, very poor job from his promotional people, poor matchmaking.

Don't know but I see too many eastern european HW fighters based in Germany and many of them end up in the shadow of others, which is the case with Bidenko.

On the other hand I see a rich place like Japan, with many fight fans, and no HW fighters based there. IMO, fighters like Bidenko, Virchis, Platov, Oloukun would have a better chance of a better, more profitable career if they were based in Japan and surroundings.

It's time for some promotional company to expand their business to that part of the world.

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A couple of fighters from the list just lost on this weekend.

E. Quinn just lost to a journeyman. Didn't see that coming.

G. Oloukun was Koed by M. Charr. Good win by Charr who is proving his win over Carrion was no fluke. It's best to keep an eye on him from now on.
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Solis beats all the other heavys on that list and the current champs
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