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Old 05-25-2012, 12:15 PM   #61
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He'd easily make 175 without being too drained with water manipulation, many LHWs today are his size, maybe he could even make 160, we have plenty of natural 180lbers at 160-168 today who use saunas, water manipulation and diuretics to cut weight and put it back on after the weigh in
Marciano could not make 160lb, that's foolish. He was coming down from arouns 210lb, he was running 12-15 miles a day and still never broke 185. I suspect he might be able to make 175
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:19 PM   #62
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Be careful ... when you talk Marciano it is sacred ground for many .. the laws of physics that apply to any other fighter get over ruled as he is the only man in history that never got hurt, never got tired and had the will all other greats lacked ...
What cruiserweights of the last 10 years would you pick to beat Rocky Marciano?
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:26 PM   #63
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The vast majority of fighters do not possess the commitment to the attain the fat to muscle ratio of Rocky Marciano.

In no way, shape or form could he have afforded to lose another good 10 pounds. It would have stricken him with staleness.
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I think the differences in fat to muscle ration between Marciano's time and now are clear.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:28 PM   #64
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bigger is better in d h2h sense , not necessarily in d p4p sense , put Rocco with some1 like McCline/Grant/Whitaker and he gets easily hammered in2 d canvas . He wouldn't have even been able 2 reach their heads with his short stature and reach , only their bodies , but they would have been able 2 reach him 1st , more often and often harder . Just d weight behind these men's punches and d leverage of their punches stemming from their wingspan , would b 2 hard 4 Rocco 2 endure , or does Wilfredo gomez KO Nigel Benn ?
u not countz the foul spirit of rocco? the foul spiritz would overcum mccline's disproportioned small penis and testicles? mccline would leave ring in stretcher. grant was a long penis but his chin is mud of glass, and wit bad posture and notrious hunch back from yeras of sitting in small school desks, rocco would reach that glass. whitaker would crush rocco no doubtz but at wut cost? sweat pea was to sweat, even so small, he would school the rockz like he chavez.
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Old 05-25-2012, 12:33 PM   #65
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The vast majority of fighters do not possess the commitment to the attain the fat to muscle ratio of Rocky Marciano.

In no way, shape or form could he have afforded to lose another good 10 pounds. It would have stricken him with staleness.
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No, but I can imagine him lumbering around, constantly being countered and kept of balance as he swings wildly at the superior boxer.

Calzaghe would have no trouble outlanding him 2 to 1, with most of Marciano's shots being glancing blows. These two fighters are incomparible.
This post must be a joke right? Not only would Joe NEVER step in the ring with The Rock... but if he did... He would've gotten crushed.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:39 PM   #68
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But you can see from my picture, how he could still cut a lot of weight for a weigh in
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:21 PM   #69
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What cruiserweights of the last 10 years would you pick to beat Rocky Marciano?
Maybe none --- I love Marciano, just leave the rose colored glasses to others .. pound for pound he was as tough as anyone that ever fought. He is possibly in my top five all time between 180 and 200 ... I go back and forth on him v.s. Dempsey but pick Langford over either ... I know you think I'm crazy on the next one but from a stylistic match up I think Fitz may have beaten him ... I can't factor in Holyfield as I definitely believe he was a major juicer at heavyweight and did not fight at cruiser long enough for me to decide if he beats Rocky or not ... just not sure...
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Old 05-25-2012, 03:23 PM   #70
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But you can see from my picture, how he could still cut a lot of weight for a weigh in
My favorite Marciano photo .. what a shot .. yeah, he was definitely bulking up with the carbs .. had pecs like Witherspoon ....
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I know you think I'm crazy on the next one but from a stylistic match up I think Fitz may have beaten him
I think your grasping for straws here. If Fitz thinks he can set Marciano up for a one punch body knockout trap, well he's gonna be in for a long night. Fitzsimmons at 165lb, I don't think he possibly has the durability to take Marciano's bombs for 15 rounds. Fitz, with his leanback bareknuckle style, low hands...he won't possibly be able to survive a knockout volume puncher like Marciano.
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bigger is better in d h2h sense , not necessarily in d p4p sense , put Rocco with some1 like McCline/Grant/Whitaker and he gets easily hammered in2 d canvas . He wouldn't have even been able 2 reach their heads with his short stature and reach , only their bodies , but they would have been able 2 reach him 1st , more often and often harder . Just d weight behind these men's punches and d leverage of their punches stemming from their wingspan , would b 2 hard 4 Rocco 2 endure , or does Wilfredo gomez KO Nigel Benn ?
Assinine. Once more those w'out a true knowledge of boxing go w/ c-level fighters to beat greats . It has ruined talking boxing. I would love to really know you guys and bet on fights.
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Old 05-25-2012, 04:20 PM   #73
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Maybe none --- I love Marciano..


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Old 05-25-2012, 04:29 PM   #74
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But you can see from my picture, how he could still cut a lot of weight for a weigh in
Not much to conclulde from an intentionally misleading picture.

The more flattering picture I posted was Marciano at a very lean and cut 185 lbs.

Pictures don't mean much of anything. You were trying to be cute, and I bested you. Shit happens.

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My favorite Marciano photo .. what a shot .. yeah, he was definitely bulking up with the carbs .. had pecs like Witherspoon ....
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