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Old 08-27-2007, 11:11 PM   #46
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I know Naz had great power but the guy didn't face much world class opposition..
He fought ten former/current/future world titlists....I would say that's world class opposition, especially when he fought six in a row at one point

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Trinidad fought so many more better caliber fighters than Naz..You could put 500 B level fighters in front of Trinidad and he'd knock them out no problem as well.
Yes he did, but to be fair Trinidad's welterweight division was STACKED. DLH, Quartey, Whitaker, Carr.....
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:12 PM   #47
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I guess you are right, you are entitled to your crazy opinions, we all are and that's why we post on these boards. I just think your completely wrong in your observation.
Tito does not have that much more POWER then ODH..That is ridiculous. He was the more EFFECIENT puncher. TITO threw a perfect left hook high from the shoulder. Its his delivery method along with his power that made him the monster he was. ODH had raw power but didnt turn his punches over like tito did perfectly. Tito was a better puncher, but they had about the same power in the left hand. ODH left hook was quite sloppy most times but he still could put you down or out with it. Like if you look at Mike Tyson..he didnt have more RAW power then every Heavyweight. It seemed that way b/c he threw perfect power punches that were not sloppy and turned them perfectly getting that CLEAN landing that sloppy power punchers like Foreman etc. etc.. could not do.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:14 PM   #48
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ODH and Tito had about the same power in there left hook. The thing is that ODH could get it off from anywhere anytime in a fight. Tito had a better right hand. ODH showed more power with Mayorga but you can argue that it was after Tito was through with him. So if you want to generalize a puncher from accuracy, power, and knockouts of high level competition. ODH/Tito/Pac/Raf Marquez for sure/Cotto/Wlad/You could put Tsyu but he is overrated as all hell.
Yeah all those dudes can crack some are heavier handed than others some used speed and accurracy, others have massive thighs to generate power+velocity and accurracy. Funny enough Tito's knuckles and maybe even his hands are around the same size of Wlad's no joke, Wlad's hands are not that large (in comparison to his height) nor are his brothers. Lennox and Hassim hands where similar to bear mitts.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:19 PM   #49
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Tito does not have that much more POWER then ODH..That is ridiculous. He was the more EFFECIENT puncher. TITO threw a perfect left hook high from the shoulder. Its his delivery method along with his power that made him the monster he was. ODH had raw power but didnt turn his punches over like tito did perfectly. Tito was a better puncher, but they had about the same power in the left hand. ODH left hook was quite sloppy most times but he still could put you down or out with it. Like if you look at Mike Tyson..he didnt have more RAW power then every Heavyweight. It seemed that way b/c he threw perfect power punches that were not sloppy and turned them perfectly getting that CLEAN landing that sloppy power punchers like Foreman etc. etc.. could not do.
Like I said Shifty some physical traits just play a huge role in punching power. While I agree with your post I still feel Tito had a pretty decent advantage in the power department.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:10 AM   #50
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Trinidad and Tszyu for mine.

Judah was undefeated and hadn't been ko'ed to that point. Since then he's taken some big hits and shown his chin isn't made of china which shows how big the punch Tszyu hit him with was. Mitchell had not tasted the canvas in eleven years before the Tszyu fight. After it, he was completely broken.

Fighters that come off Trinidad losses just don't look the same. He damages his opponents permanently. Hmm, maybe that's why De La Hoya often picked up the leftovers ??

Naz destroyed a lot of B grade fighters. He had power for sure but I can't rate him because unlike Tszyu and Trinidad he folded in his first fight against a class opponent and didn't hurt Barrera once. He's got too many question marks against him.
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Old 08-28-2007, 06:34 AM   #51
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if were talking Greatest Punch's
this would be my list in the last Ten Years.

1. Felix Trinidad
2. Naseem Hamed
3. Kostya Tszyu
4. David Tua
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Wlad Klitschko
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Oscar Dela Hoya
9. Kermit Cintron
10. Miguel Cotto
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:04 PM   #52
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Like I said Shifty some physical traits just play a huge role in punching power. While I agree with your post I still feel Tito had a pretty decent advantage in the power department.
good statement. I think oscar had the bigger left hand but tito had more power to offer because his right was stronger

some people have said that kostya tszyu was more accurate than powerful. But you could level this argument against alexis arguello. a lot of his ko's were from accurate punches. Many say he was the biggest puncher of the 70's
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:08 PM   #53
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good statement. I think oscar had the bigger left hand but tito had more power to offer because his right was stronger

some people have said that kostya tszyu was more accurate than powerful. But you could level this argument against alexis arguello. a lot of his ko's were from accurate punches. Many say he was the biggest puncher of the 70's
I think that in order to be a great puncher you have to also be accurate. There are plenty of guys out there with lots of raw power that I wouldn't call great punchers, like for example, Mayorga, peter, Freitas, miranda
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:12 PM   #54
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I would put Tszyu number 1
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:23 PM   #55
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Probably you should look on KO ratio, then on the most impressive KOs.
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