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Old 08-26-2007, 06:53 PM   #1
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Can anyone compete?

400-16, I think it was...
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:04 PM   #2
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Can anyone compete?

400-16, I think it was...
I have seen 431-18 for Curry, but remember he was a pro at 19...

Bernard Taylor was allegedly 481-8

Kelcie Banks had 505 fights

I suspect Lazlo Papp and Stevenson would be up there as well.

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Old 08-26-2007, 07:07 PM   #3
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Mark breland was ca. 119-1, winning 5 golden gloves titles (ny)

SRR was ca. 75-0 beating Pep and Billy Graham along the way

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Old 08-26-2007, 07:20 PM   #4
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Looking this up, the numbers need to be taken with a pinch of salt:

Lazlo Papp:

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1968 Gold Medallist Francisco Morochito Rodriquez had a record of 266-4

Dave Hilton Jr 130-2
Matthew Hilton 106-0
Alex Hilton 101-1

Benvenuti 119-1
Napoles 113-1
Brleland 110-1
Courage Tshabalala 83-1

Harry Mallin claimed an unbeaten Amateur resume of over 300 fights

Joan Guzman 312-10

Felix Savon 387-21
Mario Kindelan 358-22
Teofilo Stevenson 302-22


But the Daddy has be Dick McTaggart 610-24 with an Olympic Gold, a Val Barker and 5 ABA Championships to his name.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:04 AM   #5
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SRR was ca. 75-0 beating Pep and Billy Graham along the way
It was discussed again here recently, that Robinson had from 1 to 3 losses in the amateurs.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:43 AM   #6
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Robinson was 85-0 according to the book on him "Pound for Pound" with 69 first round knockouts.
The book is wrong.

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The book maybe wrong, there was still no definitive evidence shown to disprove the 85-0...
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There was no definitive evidence of 85-0 in the first place. Who counted it and how?
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:12 AM   #9
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There was no definitive evidence of 85-0 in the first place. Who counted it and how?
History is written by the victor, anf few got more wins than Robinson
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History contains a lot of myths. This undefeated record is one of such myths. And he only fought local opposition, not world class.

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History contains a lot of myths. This undefeated record is one of such myths. And he only fought local opposition, not world class.
But there is no evidence brought to the table on this forum to prove he lost. And the local talent is from the New York area which generally is not to bad.
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But there is no evidence to prove he had an undefeated record, except 3rd-rate source.
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But there is no evidence to prove he had an undefeated record, except 3rd-rate source.
I would trust the word of Bob Mee over most in boxing...
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I would trust the head of IBRO over Bob Mee any day of the week. The info he got originates in New York Daily News newspaper that founded the NY Golden Gloves tournament.
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118 lb. Pasquale Pesca, Unattached Won by Default over Eugene Toscani, Unattached
Pesca who beat Robby won the tournament in that category.
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I would trust the head of IBRO over Bob Mee any day of the week. The info he got originates in New York Daily News newspaper that founded the NY Golden Gloves tournament.
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Pesca who beat Robby won the tournament in that category.
He beat Ray Robinson, but is their evidence it was the Walker Smith Jr Ray Robinson?
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