Yory Bory Campas...

Russell · 08-26-2007, 02:05 AM

Basically a poor mans Trinidad or what? What did he have going for him?

Kicked the shit out of Ayala post prison, correct?

salsanchezfan · 08-26-2007, 02:11 AM

I knew when he narrowly outpointed a useless Roger Turner in 1992 that he wasn't going anywhere. He had an unusually good chin, impossibly short arms, a good body attack, and decent, but highly overrated power. He built his record on no-hopers and always failed when he stepped up to the big time. The Ayala win produced an exciting fight, but that was not the same Ayala we'd seen before, and it was hardly one-sided.

Russell · 08-26-2007, 02:15 AM

I know next to nothing about Ayala... So I'm curious. He was supposedly an absolute beast at his best, wasn't he?

What exactly comes to mind when you think of him?

And how good is Yory's chin, anyway?

divac · 08-26-2007, 04:13 AM

Sal summed up Campas just about to a tee.

In his early career before he lost to Trinidad, my feeling was that he was a prospect that could stay and be a solid champion for some time.
Campas' defensive deficiencies were quite evident when he stepped up vs top notch competition.

Campas' defense was and is so porous, he hardly has any upper body movement, that it pains me to see him take so many clean shots to his facial area.

Spot on Sal, alot of boxing scribes have the impression that Campas is a big puncher, but those who have seen him vs better competition know that although he may have heavy hands, he's far from a big puncher.
Campas' KO's usually come through sheer attrition and stamina, but he's certainly not a big puncher.

la-califa · 08-27-2007, 10:58 PM

This "Poor man's Trinidad" Had Trinidad on his Ass in thier fight! His lack of defense was his downfall. But his chin was solid. Trinidad landed solid punches, that would have anyone else unconcious, But Campas wouldn't go down!

bumdujour · 08-28-2007, 07:09 PM

i have the turner fight and i certainly wouldnt call turner useless. he was a bit like roger mayweather and he gave yori boy lots of movement and angles that made him look awkward at times.

but yori certainly had power.....just look at marquez face after the fight.

as for turner, he was the NABF champ and was unbeaten in 22 fights. and he had a win over olympian kenny gould. pretty good fighter in my book.

Sonny Carson · 08-28-2007, 07:21 PM

He could definitely punch just cause he didn't KO Trinidad, De La Hoya, or even Vargas(who had a good chin than) doesn't mean he didn't have power.

salsanchezfan · 08-28-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny Carson

He could definitely punch just cause he didn't KO Trinidad, De La Hoya, or even Vargas(who had a good chin than) doesn't mean he didn't have power.

............Not "no power." Overrated power.

mochabuzz · 08-29-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by la-califa

This "Poor man's Trinidad" Had Trinidad on his Ass in thier fight! His lack of defense was his downfall. But his chin was solid. Trinidad landed solid punches, that would have anyone else unconcious, But Campas wouldn't go down!

Campas had put Tito on the deck with a '6 inch' left hook. If you can knock someone down with a left hook that short, you've got to have some power. Even today he still has some pop in his punches.... just ask John Duddy

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08-26-2007, 02:11 AM	#2
salsanchezfan Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 6,888 vCash: 1000	Re: Yory Bory Campas... I knew when he narrowly outpointed a useless Roger Turner in 1992 that he wasn't going anywhere. He had an unusually good chin, impossibly short arms, a good body attack, and decent, but highly overrated power. He built his record on no-hopers and always failed when he stepped up to the big time. The Ayala win produced an exciting fight, but that was not the same Ayala we'd seen before, and it was hardly one-sided.
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08-26-2007, 02:15 AM	#3
Russell Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12,164 vCash: 75	Re: Yory Bory Campas... I know next to nothing about Ayala... So I'm curious. He was supposedly an absolute beast at his best, wasn't he? What exactly comes to mind when you think of him? And how good is Yory's chin, anyway?
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08-26-2007, 04:13 AM	#4
divac Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: LosAngeles Posts: 11,441 vCash: 75	Re: Yory Bory Campas... Sal summed up Campas just about to a tee. In his early career before he lost to Trinidad, my feeling was that he was a prospect that could stay and be a solid champion for some time. Campas' defensive deficiencies were quite evident when he stepped up vs top notch competition. Campas' defense was and is so porous, he hardly has any upper body movement, that it pains me to see him take so many clean shots to his facial area. Spot on Sal, alot of boxing scribes have the impression that Campas is a big puncher, but those who have seen him vs better competition know that although he may have heavy hands, he's far from a big puncher. Campas' KO's usually come through sheer attrition and stamina, but he's certainly not a big puncher.
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08-27-2007, 10:58 PM	#5
la-califa Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: City of Angels Posts: 3,159 vCash: 1000	Re: Yory Bory Campas... This "Poor man's Trinidad" Had Trinidad on his Ass in thier fight! His lack of defense was his downfall. But his chin was solid. Trinidad landed solid punches, that would have anyone else unconcious, But Campas wouldn't go down!
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08-28-2007, 07:09 PM	#6
bumdujour Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: you´re not alive unless you´re almost dying!! Posts: 1,767 vCash: 1000	Re: Yory Bory Campas... i have the turner fight and i certainly wouldnt call turner useless. he was a bit like roger mayweather and he gave yori boy lots of movement and angles that made him look awkward at times. but yori certainly had power.....just look at marquez face after the fight. as for turner, he was the NABF champ and was unbeaten in 22 fights. and he had a win over olympian kenny gould. pretty good fighter in my book.
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08-28-2007, 07:21 PM	#7
Sonny Carson Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,506 vCash: 1000	Re: Yory Bory Campas... He could definitely punch just cause he didn't KO Trinidad, De La Hoya, or even Vargas(who had a good chin than) doesn't mean he didn't have power.
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