Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano - Page 2

Hitman · 08-28-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by heerko koois

Marciano would never lose to Douglas......have you never seen Douglas against Tucker ?

Saw it too many times and Douglas was winning fairly easy vs a guy who was bigger than him. He would have had no trouble with a slow plodding midget like Rocky.

Hitman · 08-28-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LogDog69

That's about the same math that made up Jones/Ruiz and we know how that turned out.

Please....Ruiz couldn't hold a candle to Douglas and neither could Rocky to Jones. As far as skill level is concerned.

janitor · 08-28-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Please....Ruiz couldn't hold a candle to Douglas and neither could Rocky to Jones. As far as skill level is concerned.

Rocky couldn't hold a candle to jones in skill terms but he could demolish him brutaly in the first round.

janitor · 08-28-2007, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Saw it too many times and Douglas was winning fairly easy vs a guy who was bigger than him. He would have had no trouble with a slow plodding midget like Rocky.

Whatever Marciano's limitations he would never come into the ring in the condition that Tyson did against Douglas that night.

It took two men to make that fight unfold like it did.

C. M. Clay II · 08-28-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Flabby Gut

Like every other fight he had Marciano would not take Douglass lightly the way Tyson did. He would be prepared as always.

Marciano KO 5 Douglass of Feb. 1990 in Tokyo.

Just like he was prepared for LaStarza and Don Cockell, right?

janitor · 08-28-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by C. M. Clay II

Just like he was prepared for LaStarza and Don Cockell, right?

He was prepared enough to win.

His fans ended up making excuses for an inelegant performence rather than a catastrophic KO loss.

C. M. Clay II · 08-28-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

He was prepared enough to win.

His fans ended up making excuses for an inelegant performence rather than a catastrophic KO loss.

Yeah, but if you take out Cockell and replace the Tokyo Douglas and IMO the outcome would have been different.

Dempsey1238 · 08-28-2007, 05:34 PM

Marciano look pretty dang impressive in the LarSarza rematch. And Cockell was just not staying down lol. Had Cockell take the punch and takeing the ten count like any other man, ok, impressive. But NOOOO Cockell had to fight for honor and country,(The Brits were edgeing Cockell to win the title, Brition's last hope ete.) And relly that type of backing makes a guy stronger if they are view as the host of there country for a fight. It was not the edge to beat Marciano of couse, BUT Marciano gave Cockell one of the worse beatings in the ring. Did you guys see the 7th and 8 rounds of that fight?? Cockell was taking right hand after right hand and NOT going down.

Dempsey1238 · 08-28-2007, 05:36 PM

For the record, Cockell Marciano beats Douglas Tyson. Unlike Tyson, Marciano wont forget his head movement and defenses from his style. Tyson was just walking in and taking the jab. Also Marciano would be in better shape.

Billy Conn said it better, a C Level fighter INSHAPE beats a A level fighter out of shape.

08-28-2007, 07:34 PM

Douglas wins by KO/TKO.

Douglas of 1990,Tokyo too big, too determined, too skilled, too much for onesided Marciano.

Bummy Davis · 08-28-2007, 08:18 PM

Marciano by KO by the 10th,Buster had 1 good fight

Luigi1985 · 08-28-2007, 08:33 PM

I don´t understand why people here (many) hate Marciano so much, what did he wrong? Now he´s in a fantasy matchup against a journeyman, Buster Douglas. This fighter´s legacy is only discussed today because he won (where he was in decent shape, I agree) against a non motivated, non well- trained, from parties fucked up Tyson. Marciano would KO him in the midrounds after a pretty good beating, @ this little Ali- nuthugger who play the smart-ass and tell us about "do your math...": Perhaps you should yourself fight a combat sport (or at least making some sparring sessions), than you would probably notice that weight and size isn´t everything...

Holmes' Jab · 08-29-2007, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by janitor

You certainly cannot rule it out. Douglas was awesome that night.

I tend to think that what puts Marciano above Tyson historicaly is that while less talented he always found a way to close the gap on his Douglases.

Sound analysis. Consistency-wise you'd have to give Marciano the edge, but "Buster" on Tokyo form would be a genuine threat to many a HW.

Sweet Science · 08-29-2007, 06:18 AM

While Douglas was very good the night he beat Tyson and I don't want to take anything away from the best performance of his life, Tyson was in pretty bad shape and was almost waiting to be taken by the next serious Heavyweight that didn't fear his aura of invincibilty. He had been on the slippery slide down for a while, the Bruno fight really sent alarm bells ringing for me. All credit to Douglas for taking advantage of this and showing the heart he did against Tyson. He would not be so fortunate against Marciano, who was always focussed and came to fight in exceptionally well trained condition. I see Marciano stopping a game Douglas by the 10th Round.

bumdujour · 08-29-2007, 06:55 AM

rocky would probably stop douglas late, but you can never rule out douglas winning. his jab just might cut up rocky enough for a stoppage.

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Dempsey1238 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,352 vCash: 1000	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano Marciano look pretty dang impressive in the LarSarza rematch. And Cockell was just not staying down lol. Had Cockell take the punch and takeing the ten count like any other man, ok, impressive. But NOOOO Cockell had to fight for honor and country,(The Brits were edgeing Cockell to win the title, Brition's last hope ete.) And relly that type of backing makes a guy stronger if they are view as the host of there country for a fight. It was not the edge to beat Marciano of couse, BUT Marciano gave Cockell one of the worse beatings in the ring. Did you guys see the 7th and 8 rounds of that fight?? Cockell was taking right hand after right hand and NOT going down.
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08-28-2007, 05:36 PM	#24
Dempsey1238 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,352 vCash: 1000	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano For the record, Cockell Marciano beats Douglas Tyson. Unlike Tyson, Marciano wont forget his head movement and defenses from his style. Tyson was just walking in and taking the jab. Also Marciano would be in better shape. Billy Conn said it better, a C Level fighter INSHAPE beats a A level fighter out of shape.
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08-28-2007, 07:34 PM	#25
KTFO Guest Posts: n/a vCash:	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano Douglas wins by KO/TKO. Douglas of 1990,Tokyo too big, too determined, too skilled, too much for onesided Marciano. Last edited by KTFO; 08-28-2007 at 08:50 PM.
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08-28-2007, 08:18 PM	#26
Bummy Davis Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 8,186 vCash: 1000	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano Marciano by KO by the 10th,Buster had 1 good fight
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08-28-2007, 08:33 PM	#27
Luigi1985 Cane Corso ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,319 vCash: 1000	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano I don´t understand why people here (many) hate Marciano so much, what did he wrong? Now he´s in a fantasy matchup against a journeyman, Buster Douglas. This fighter´s legacy is only discussed today because he won (where he was in decent shape, I agree) against a non motivated, non well- trained, from parties fucked up Tyson. Marciano would KO him in the midrounds after a pretty good beating, @ this little Ali- nuthugger who play the smart-ass and tell us about "do your math...": Perhaps you should yourself fight a combat sport (or at least making some sparring sessions), than you would probably notice that weight and size isn´t everything...
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08-29-2007, 06:18 AM	#29
Sweet Science Peaceful Muslim Warrior ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester England Posts: 562 vCash: 1000	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano While Douglas was very good the night he beat Tyson and I don't want to take anything away from the best performance of his life, Tyson was in pretty bad shape and was almost waiting to be taken by the next serious Heavyweight that didn't fear his aura of invincibilty. He had been on the slippery slide down for a while, the Bruno fight really sent alarm bells ringing for me. All credit to Douglas for taking advantage of this and showing the heart he did against Tyson. He would not be so fortunate against Marciano, who was always focussed and came to fight in exceptionally well trained condition. I see Marciano stopping a game Douglas by the 10th Round.
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08-29-2007, 06:55 AM	#30
bumdujour Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: you´re not alive unless you´re almost dying!! Posts: 1,767 vCash: 1000	Re: Buster Douglas vs. Rocky Marciano rocky would probably stop douglas late, but you can never rule out douglas winning. his jab just might cut up rocky enough for a stoppage.
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