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Old 08-28-2007, 08:43 PM   #1
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Default Acheiving greatness without a title

I have never been a big believer in the concept that a fighter needed to be a world champ to be great. There are quite a few fighters who never won belts who in my own mind ( and not necessarily anyone elses, ) will always be great.

Here are just a few names :

1. Jerry Quarry

2. Sam Langford ( won colored world title, but not lineal )

3. Harold Brazier

4. Roland Lastarza


The list goes on and on. If Frank Bruno hadn't won a title from Oliver Mccall in the 90's I'd have him in there to, but as it stands, he only improved his legacy by becoming a champion, so more power to him.

anyone else want to throw in some names?
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Do you mean only HW or all weight classes?
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:55 PM   #3
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Jack Chase. Never won a world title, but was seen by many on the west coast as the uncrowned champion of the great 1940's MW division. Beat some great, great fighters. Be a millionare were he fighting today.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:56 PM   #4
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Do you mean only HW or all weight classes?
Everyone you can think of Luigi
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George Chuvalo.

Beat Patterson in my eyes, and beat Terrell for the title as well... in my eyes.
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The first one who came to my mind was Lou Bogash...
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Old 08-28-2007, 09:00 PM   #8
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Lloyd Marshall didn't ever win a title did he? And I'd pick him to cause a lot of top ten guys trouble in 168 and 175.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:11 PM   #11
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George Chuvalo.

Beat Patterson in my eyes, and beat Terrell for the title as well... in my eyes.
Good pick,

Chuvalo was tough and had some very good wins over some talented fighters. I have to put him on my list to.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:34 PM   #12
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Ill give Jimmy Bivins a mention. I dont think he got a title
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What would be your resoning for Brazier's greatness Mag?
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Ezzard Charles never won a title at light heavyweight, but he's argueably the greatest 175-pounder in history.
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Charley Burley.
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