Whitaker vs. Camacho?

Russell · 08-30-2007, 07:45 AM

Supposedly a young Pea wandered into a gym where Camacho, who was in his prime, trained at.

And much embarassment followed. Guess who did it.

Any truth to this? Anyone ever heard it?

Titan1 · 08-30-2007, 08:55 AM

I wonder what year it was?

Marnoff · 08-30-2007, 10:05 AM

Interesting tale. Too bad there's no footage.

apollack · 08-30-2007, 04:15 PM

Doesn't surprise me at all. Whitaker was ten times the fighter that Camacho ever dreamed of being.

META5 · 08-30-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by apollack

Doesn't surprise me at all. Whitaker was ten times the fighter that Camacho ever dreamed of being.

And thensome ... "ten times the fighter" isn't literally true ... but Whitaker was just flat out better ... and he proved it against better competition, IMO ... it really is that simple.

red cobra · 08-31-2007, 08:58 AM

Look, I hate to terminate a thread so abruptly, but I can end this one by simply reminding everyone that the Pea was superior in every way to Camacho, and Camacho was very good, don't misunderstand me. The Pea would be Hector's master if they ever fought, and there would be no need at all for a rematch.

Russell · 08-31-2007, 09:20 AM

And you're terminating this thread how exactly?

JohnThomas1 · 08-31-2007, 09:35 AM

By thy power of words!!!

redrooster · 08-31-2007, 09:41 AM

How was Pea superior? Both were southpaws and considered hard to hit. Hector had more speed but Pernell might have been better inside. But I've seen some of Hector's body assault-and shows he can fight on the inside if he wanted to.

That's the thing though. In his prime he was so good, so dominant, so fast, and so unhittable, he won easily from the outside. Anyone who attmpted to box was outsped so he stayed with the same strategy so I was surprised when he pulled out his latest weapon with Howard Davis with a body attack. So quick was he to score to the body, Howard, a speedster himself, couldn't counter Hector though he was right in front of him.

red cobra · 08-31-2007, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell

And you're terminating this thread how exactly?

Russell, I regret not posting a "sarcasm on/off" disclaimer for your benefit.

boxbible · 08-31-2007, 11:35 AM

Whitaker just had a better slip, slide and roll technique and more efficient footwork.

Camacho probably had the better physical attributes like speed and power, but a lot of his game depended on using those physical attributes in quick bursts which he couldn't keep up consistently over the period of a whole fight.

redrooster · 08-31-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by boxbible

Whitaker just had a better slip, slide and roll technique and more efficient footwork.

Camacho probably had the better physical attributes like speed and power, but a lot of his game depended on using those physical attributes in quick bursts which he couldn't keep up consistently over the period of a whole fight.

Sure he could. I know I have seen probably as much as Hector during his prime and I never saw Hector have the problem you just described.

When he boxed Davis, a performance he gets little credit for, he was just as brilliant at the end of the fight as at the begginning and that's how most of his fights went.

His problems began when he couldn't carry his weight and went flatfooted later in his career.

Street Lethal · 08-31-2007, 12:52 PM

Whitaker was better than Camacho, but not by some fantastic amount. A fight between them would have been interesting.

redrooster · 08-31-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Are you totally missing the fact that a young, pre olympics Pea traveled down to a PEAK Camacho's gym and schooled him when jet-lagged? That's how he's superior, stop trying.

i'm just telling you I never read that. Never do I remember reading anything of the sort and at that time I was buying up every title around.

The only meeting I remember is from an article I read in one of the publications 1985 around the time Hector yelled out the infamous line "all you ******s come one with it".

I can't remember which one if it was ko or world boxing and I didn't think much of it at the time but I read that Hector roughed him up pretty badly that his trainers had to step in and stop the session, leaving me with the impression that Pernell had been humbled and beaten in the encounter.

I think everyone at the time was afraid to take a fight with Hector including Chavez. hector was the best jr lightweight, lightweight, and jr welterweight around. That's why everyone was in his shadow.

redrooster · 08-31-2007, 07:53 PM

Hey Pea I wanted to ask you if Pernell's pro debut was at the Garden on the Hagler-Hamsho undercard. Do you know?

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redrooster Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,857 vCash: 1000	Re: Whitaker vs. Camacho? How was Pea superior? Both were southpaws and considered hard to hit. Hector had more speed but Pernell might have been better inside. But I've seen some of Hector's body assault-and shows he can fight on the inside if he wanted to. That's the thing though. In his prime he was so good, so dominant, so fast, and so unhittable, he won easily from the outside. Anyone who attmpted to box was outsped so he stayed with the same strategy so I was surprised when he pulled out his latest weapon with Howard Davis with a body attack. So quick was he to score to the body, Howard, a speedster himself, couldn't counter Hector though he was right in front of him.
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boxbible Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 491 vCash: 1000	Re: Whitaker vs. Camacho? Whitaker just had a better slip, slide and roll technique and more efficient footwork. Camacho probably had the better physical attributes like speed and power, but a lot of his game depended on using those physical attributes in quick bursts which he couldn't keep up consistently over the period of a whole fight.
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