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Old 05-22-2009, 09:08 PM   #16
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yes but he is a long way off the elite and his division was poor but still a decent pro and a tough guy
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:14 PM   #17
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Yeah you're right there, i think decent pro is an understatement though!

Haha, i get what you mean, not being argumentative
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:16 PM   #18
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no he is a decent pro in terms of worl class boxers

he had the fundamentals and was tough and willing didnt do nothing spectacular or flashy he did his job
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:21 PM   #19
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no he is a decent pro in terms of worl class boxers

he had the fundamentals and was tough and willing didnt do nothing spectacular or flashy he did his job
Yeah effectiveness overrides flash etc though for me, and he must have been somewhat effctive to beat the likes of Casamayor, Lazcano, Johnston twice (depending on your scoring), and for some Mayweather, like i said a draw for me. Also it's up to you wether to credit him for ko'ing Corrales, as Castillo was over the weight on a revenge mission.

Like i say he has good wins in terms of at the time, but like i say it doesn't matter anyway, i'm not making out like he was on the level of greatness of Ike Williams or even Beau Jack or Lou Ambers, far from it, just an underrated lightweight at present for me, that's all
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:26 PM   #20
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yes he is quite underrated but when people look back they will see he as actually alrigh want he

ready his record is basically a whos who of the LW division of his time. Shame hes still fighting though hes not going to enhance his legacy
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Yeah he should leave it defo. Not good seeing fighters carrying on when they shouldn't anytime.
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:35 PM   #22
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yes totally agree was just watching Chacon vs Olivares 1 and there was an advet for Yory Boy Campas fighting some fighters just cant stop
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yes totally agree was just watching Chacon vs Olivares 1 and there was an advet for Yory Boy Campas fighting some fighters just cant stop
Wow! Seems crazy that doesn't it?!!
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:39 PM   #24
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yes i was like WTF yori boy campas this cant be rigth

still maybe Mcvey could turn pro now he would be considered young now
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yes i was like WTF yori boy campas this cant be rigth

still maybe Mcvey could turn pro now he would be considered young now
Hahahaha,
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Old 05-23-2009, 08:42 AM   #26
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Chavez was such a quality fighter in his prime.
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:36 AM   #27
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and he must have been somewhat effctive to beat the likes of Casamayor, Lazcano, Johnston twice (depending on your scoring), and for some Mayweather, like i said a draw for me.
Add Bazan to that list, that was an impressive win

Corrales/Casamayor/Johnston/Mayweather though are 4 of the best names at LW in any era and 4 of the best names in the sport and they were all very close fights. People forget what a beast Corrales was from 130-135 and how slick Casa and Johnston were.

I think Castillo-Corrales 1 finally ruined both men
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Old 05-23-2009, 06:29 PM   #28
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Good addition to my argument there with Bazan, though imo the others mentioned before hand are the bigger for his resume's boosting in the minds of fans.
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Gentlemens , this thred is about Julio Cesar ****ing Superstar .... not The imitator Castillo or the good Corrales

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Gentlemens , this thred is about Julio Cesar ****ing Superstar .... not The imitator Castillo or the good Corrales

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Hahahaha, relax! Sorry for the hi-jack oh grumpy one!
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