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Old 05-27-2009, 07:22 AM   #16
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Jersey Joe Walcott. He could knock you out with 1 punch from either hand.

Excellent choice.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:30 AM   #17
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The wikipedia entry on the ring top 100 has been tampered with as it now shows Jackson at no.1 and he was ridiculously low on the genuine list.

Kid Gavilan is one who springs to mind. Although he was no destroyer, the misconception of Sweet Pea as a 'feather fist' has always irked me as he was quite a hurtful puncher and some of his stoppages were absolutely brutal.

Not a 'big puncher' by any means, but that's always annoyed me.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:56 AM   #18
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lew tendler
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:28 AM   #19
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How could I be so stupid...wikipedia is so full of shit all of the time..I should have looked at a copy of the list elsewhere. And I should have never listened to that guy, I just thought this fighter is one of the many obscure ones I know very little about and took his word for it.

Come to think of it..that bloke who said Sekorski was an alltime puncher is from Chicago and was always a big fan of Golota..crazy polacks.
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:30 AM   #20
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This lists are something else. With the footage we have of Langford and his quality of opposition, can we really say he punches harder than Bob Foster or Tyson or Hearns? Sometimes I think the makers of these lists put in older names at the top just to prove the list is made by someone who claims to know all of boxing history. Seems like bs a little. Fred Fulton number 98. Yep this is a legit list. There is no way Tua punches as hard as George Godfrey.
The list was done in a pound for pound sense. Overall it was a nice issue, as each fighter had an in-depth bio. Read it sometime.

The list however is not without bad calls. Fulton at #98. Bad call. If you are talking punchers Tommy Morrison would belong.
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #21
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i would say Pernell Whittaker he had decent power just not world class knock out power although did he not knock out tough louie lomeli in 1
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:17 PM   #22
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One well known example is Jimmy McLarnin, who was recognized as one of the hardest punchers in boxing, even with only 21 stoppage wins in 68 bouts. Like a lot of hard punchers, his hands couldn't stand up under the impact of repeated hard blows, gutting his knockout percentage.

Tommy Loughran was another who started out with considerable natural power, but again, brittle hands necessitated a conversion to boxing stylist.

Even Joey Archer had a decent right hand, when he chose to use it for offensive purposes. If you want a genuinely featherfisted boxer, you can have Maxie Rosenbloom.

Nicolino Locche was really beating the shit out of Paul Fuji, especially with his hook to the liver and those right uppercuts to the head at the end. People like Locche (and Willie Pastrano) have a low knockout percentage by choice. It's always been my understanding that Pep could punch much harder than his KO percentage suggests.

It might be more apropos to ask who was simply not capable of punching powerfully with gloved fists. Along with Rosenbloom, Vito Antuofermo might be a good example. (Don't try Vito in a streetfight though. He was decking drunk hooligans at ringside during the brawl following Hagler-Minter.)
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KO percentages. And why?

Dick Tiger had 27 knockouts in 60 fights. Not particularly impressive on paper but many of the fighters he fought were extremely defensive and or even negative at times, and had great chins to boot.

Jose Torres 2x, Griffith 2x, Giardello 3x, Carter, Joey Archer, Don Fullmer (A true iron chin) Fullmer 3x, and both Mims and Henry Hank had legitmate iron chins.

I'm having a hard time thinking of very many fighters who fought more opposition with great chins then Tiger, actually.
Jack Sharkey could hit a bit harder than his under 24% record suggests.
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Jack Sharkey could hit a bit harder than his under 24% record suggests.
Good shout-out. The hook he floored Carnera with in their first match was a bomb, probably the best shot he delivered on film (including the rights he leveled Tommy Loughran and Jimmy Maloney with). Many of the potential names for this list carried most of their power in one hand, but Sharkey could be dangerous from both sides.
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:45 PM   #25
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It should be Rocky Graziano, not Sekorski. Someone must've had fun with Wikipedia, probably Sekorski himself.

The real list:

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchel
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gómez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Félix Trinidad
31. Jose Cuevas
32. Jim Jeffries
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al Bummy Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gómez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lause
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sánchez
89. Roy Jones Jr.
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. Irish Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White
Freddie Steele is a glaring omission from this list, you can add Henry Hank as well.
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Freddie Steele is a glaring omission from this list, you can add Henry Hank as well.
Steele is a good call RB, he could crack a bit.
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:12 PM   #27
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Steele is a good call RB, he could crack a bit.
Indeed, the man was a frightening puncher, his demolition of Vince Dundee remains one of the most vicious and one-sided beatings I have ever seen.
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Indeed, the man was a frightening puncher, his demolition of Vince Dundee remains one of the most vicious and one-sided beatings I have ever seen.
Very quick handed with it, wasn't he?
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:22 PM   #29
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Very quick handed with it, wasn't he?
Oh yes, I especially love the way he leaps in with that left hook of his, so fast and deadly accurate and with enough torque behind it to knock over a brick wall. Him and Eduardo Lausse would have made for a heck of a fight while it lasts, two of the hardest hitting left hookers ever at 160 going at it. Speaking of Lausse he should be ranked higher on that list, for pure punching power the man ranks right up there with the best of them.
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Old 05-28-2009, 01:12 AM   #30
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Oh yes, I especially love the way he leaps in with that left hook of his, so fast and deadly accurate and with enough torque behind it to knock over a brick wall. Him and Eduardo Lausse would have made for a heck of a fight while it lasts, two of the hardest hitting left hookers ever at 160 going at it. Speaking of Lausse he should be ranked higher on that list, for pure punching power the man ranks right up there with the best of them.
Yeah, I'm stilling waiting for you to have the time to trade some more Steele footage to me.
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