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Old 05-26-2009, 06:44 PM   #1
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Or received the benefit of the doubt in many close fights?

Ottke, of course. A fine fighter but he always received the benefit of the doubt in close rounds and close fights.

For all of Holmes bitching of being robbed numerous times he received the nod in extremely close fights several times. Maurice Harris, Tim Witherspoon, Carl Williams and to a lesser extent the Norton match.

Ali rubs me the wrong way, much as I appreciate him, because he transcended boxing and was one of the worlds biggest sport cash cows. Hence, he received the nod in close fights for the "betterment" of the sport. And money, of course.

The Young fight. Some feel Norton won all three of their fights (Ali himself says he feels he lost the third Norton fight in a post fight interview) Some feel the second Frazier match was very close. The Lyle stoppage (Leonard received similar pointless stoppages) The Jones fight and the Shavers fight, which again some feel he lost.

Who else?
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:08 PM   #2
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paule ayala won alot of fights that where controversial. his fight with a mexican fighter named hugo danzo was a horrible decision that i thought hugo won.
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:26 PM   #3
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paule ayala won alot of fights that where controversial. his fight with a mexican fighter named hugo danzo was a horrible decision that i thought hugo won.
Didnt Danzo floor Ayala a few times in that bout and still lost?
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Old 05-26-2009, 07:38 PM   #4
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Or received the benefit of the doubt in many close fights?

Ottke, of course. A fine fighter but he always received the benefit of the doubt in close rounds and close fights.

For all of Holmes bitching of being robbed numerous times he received the nod in extremely close fights several times. Maurice Harris, Tim Witherspoon, Carl Williams and to a lesser extent the Norton match.

Ali rubs me the wrong way, much as I appreciate him, because he transcended boxing and was one of the worlds biggest sport cash cows. Hence, he received the nod in close fights for the "betterment" of the sport. And money, of course.

The Young fight. Some feel Norton won all three of their fights (Ali himself says he feels he lost the third Norton fight in a post fight interview) Some feel the second Frazier match was very close. The Lyle stoppage (Leonard received similar pointless stoppages) The Jones fight and the Shavers fight, which again some feel he lost.

Who else?
Eubanks got some close ones.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:43 PM   #5
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Yeah, Eubank deserved to lose quite a few fights actually.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:11 PM   #6
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The whole Ottke thing is a bit of a myth..its has some truth but it gets blown out of proportion. Too many still thing that every fight of his that went the rounds was automatically controversial.

I have put myself through a lot of Ottke fights..I dont recommend it but I needed to make my own mind up about it.
I thought these fights were controversial:

Reid...absolute robbery in every sense of the word..terrible referring, a fight that I get angry even talking about

Brewer I...I thought Charles landed the harder blows and had Ottke under wraps for most the fight..not wide but I thought he won it clearly. The second fight wasnt controversial in my eyes however.

Larsen...Absolute snoozer, to a degree I thought Mads blew it a little because he seemed to fight like he needed the KO for large chunks of the fight, when I thought he could outbox Ottke from range when he wanted to. I still saw it for Mads in the end though.

The first Tate fight certainly had some element of controversy to it...I have only seen a highlights package of the fight itself but Thomas felt pretty hard down by at the time.

The Johnson fight I didnt think was controversial, I thought it was a clear and fair 7-5 verdict, but I have only seen it once...Glenn was far more raw back then.

For the sake of this thread though..Ottke is a good choice...He probably wouldnt have had the career he had if he had been fighting anywhere else.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:18 PM   #7
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All of Willie Jorrin's world title success was down to poor judging.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:54 PM   #8
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Paulie Ayala for me.
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Old 05-26-2009, 10:34 PM   #9
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Ottke epitomizes the hometown decision IMO.
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From what I have seen and other reports I have read..someone like Kingpetch seems to have benefited greatly from hometown cooking.

Considering the huge career defining wins he has over true greats, that essentially are difference between him being remembered and forgotten..At least two I know were robberies and others I have heard were aswell.

Sven certainly did aswell..but from I have seen myself most of the gifts he received were late in his career after most of his best work had been done.
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koki kameda
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:07 AM   #13
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ottke!
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Eubank
Ali
Ottke

...are obvious ones. Karl Mildenberger was meant have benefited from some howlers too.
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Old 05-27-2009, 12:26 PM   #15
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paule ayala won alot of fights that where controversial. his fight with a mexican fighter named hugo danzo was a horrible decision that i thought hugo won.
How about the Tapia fights? Tapia dominated in the rematch & still "lost" the decision! Incredible!
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