Carbajal vs Lopez

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 02:14 AM

Without putting my own input in, what do other Classic Posters think would've been the outcome if Ricardo Lopez had moved up in to Light-Fly to face Carbajal, for example after Carbajal's first fight with Humberto Gonzalez???

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 03:02 AM

Was there a big change in skill for Lopez between say, '92/'93 and '98/'99.

I'm gonna say no....I think he was as capabal, if not better in the early-to-mid 90's then he was in the late 90's/early 00's (though I think he only had one fight in 2001 and I haven't seen it)

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 02:53 PM

anyone?

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 04:15 PM

if anyone can give me alink to a previous thread discussing this matchup, please let me know

Sweet Pea · 05-30-2009, 04:16 PM

Lopez was on a different level. Pretty easy fight to call, IMO.

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 04:27 PM

fair enough pea, even with those time consraints? lopez's footspeed and movement would be the key obviously, but ifeel he'd be less adept at controlling the pace with his jab when carbajal landedon him. i assume you think lopez would win a decision? who would you rate higher between carbajal and alverez, h2h or resume wise???

GPater11093 · 05-30-2009, 06:25 PM

your really pushing this thread on Flea

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 07:12 PM

just to figure out why i think it could go this way, as up until recently i had struggled to find anyone to really push lopez in a h2h sense at either sw or lfw. wanna see others opinions really, maybe to see if i'm way off the mark or whether anyone else feels the same. anyone think of a sw or lfy that could be a serious threat to lopez, and does anyone know why lopez never moved up to fight the likes of carbajal and gonzalez? and i admire the guy, but please no suggestions for calderon, he wouldn't last the distance.

robert ungurean · 05-30-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Pea

Lopez was on a different level. Pretty easy fight to call, IMO.

Flea Man · 05-30-2009, 07:23 PM

fair enough, but how would the fight go? not even competitive?am i overrating carbajal, underrating lopez (huge admirer so hope you guys don't that impression) or is it the clash of styles that don't favour carbajal? maybe i'm overrating carbajal's power? i accept maybe i got this one wrong

Mantequilla · 05-30-2009, 07:33 PM

Chang, Gushiken and Zapata have the best chance to beat him in that weight-range, maybe Estaba as well.Not seen much of him.

Sweet Pea · 05-31-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mantequilla

Chang, Gushiken and Zapata have the best chance to beat him in that weight-range, maybe Estaba as well.Not seen much of him.

What footage is there of Estaba at all, and if you don't mind could you share a few thoughts on what you've seen?

Drew101 · 06-01-2009, 03:08 PM

Carbajal has a puncher's chance, and I think he hangs in for the full twelve rounds and keeps pressing Lopez throughout. But Lopez generally kept his cool in these types of situations (as proved against Alvarez) so I think he'd emerge with a clear, but hard fought decision.

I think Chang is the only junior fly that I'd favor over Lopez. Gushiken could give him trouble too, but his defense seemed a bit leaky. Zapata had the skill-set, but something tells me that his lack of power would work to his disadvantage, and he didn't have the best chin.

05-30-2009, 02:14 AM	#1
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Carbajal vs Lopez Without putting my own input in, what do other Classic Posters think would've been the outcome if Ricardo Lopez had moved up in to Light-Fly to face Carbajal, for example after Carbajal's first fight with Humberto Gonzalez???
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05-30-2009, 03:02 AM	#2
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez Was there a big change in skill for Lopez between say, '92/'93 and '98/'99. I'm gonna say no....I think he was as capabal, if not better in the early-to-mid 90's then he was in the late 90's/early 00's (though I think he only had one fight in 2001 and I haven't seen it)
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez anyone?
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05-30-2009, 04:15 PM	#4
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez if anyone can give me alink to a previous thread discussing this matchup, please let me know
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05-30-2009, 04:16 PM	#5
Sweet Pea P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: I never sleep, cuz sleep is the cousin of death Posts: 16,432 vCash: 1000	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez Lopez was on a different level. Pretty easy fight to call, IMO.
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05-30-2009, 04:27 PM	#6
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez fair enough pea, even with those time consraints? lopez's footspeed and movement would be the key obviously, but ifeel he'd be less adept at controlling the pace with his jab when carbajal landedon him. i assume you think lopez would win a decision? who would you rate higher between carbajal and alverez, h2h or resume wise???
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05-30-2009, 06:25 PM	#7
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,118 vCash: 836	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez your really pushing this thread on Flea
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05-30-2009, 07:12 PM	#8
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez just to figure out why i think it could go this way, as up until recently i had struggled to find anyone to really push lopez in a h2h sense at either sw or lfw. wanna see others opinions really, maybe to see if i'm way off the mark or whether anyone else feels the same. anyone think of a sw or lfy that could be a serious threat to lopez, and does anyone know why lopez never moved up to fight the likes of carbajal and gonzalez? and i admire the guy, but please no suggestions for calderon, he wouldn't last the distance.
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05-30-2009, 07:23 PM	#10
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez fair enough, but how would the fight go? not even competitive?am i overrating carbajal, underrating lopez (huge admirer so hope you guys don't that impression) or is it the clash of styles that don't favour carbajal? maybe i'm overrating carbajal's power? i accept maybe i got this one wrong
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05-30-2009, 07:33 PM	#11
Mantequilla Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,495 vCash: 1000	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez Chang, Gushiken and Zapata have the best chance to beat him in that weight-range, maybe Estaba as well.Not seen much of him.
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06-01-2009, 03:08 PM	#13
Drew101 Good To The Last Punch East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: "...The Land of Dixon and Langford..." Posts: 6,094 vCash: 20000	Re: Carbajal vs Lopez Carbajal has a puncher's chance, and I think he hangs in for the full twelve rounds and keeps pressing Lopez throughout. But Lopez generally kept his cool in these types of situations (as proved against Alvarez) so I think he'd emerge with a clear, but hard fought decision. I think Chang is the only junior fly that I'd favor over Lopez. Gushiken could give him trouble too, but his defense seemed a bit leaky. Zapata had the skill-set, but something tells me that his lack of power would work to his disadvantage, and he didn't have the best chin.
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