***ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)*** - Page 2

sugarngold · 06-04-2009, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusty nails

hey sugarnold
a suggestion for an omoplata would be the one on mark coleman from shogun in their last fight if ya can find it.
keep up the good work,

maybe youll help drag a few more boxing fans out of the dark ages..

Thanks for the suggestion. I was going to go with the GIF of Alberto Crane's rolling omoplata from what I think was a Bellator event. I'll see if I can find Shogun/Coleman.

sugarngold · 06-04-2009, 09:04 PM

I. ARMLOCKS

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/fedor-armbar-god.gif[/IMG]

1. Keylock/Americana.

I always start with the keylock - because it is the most common armlock. It's the simplest to apply because it doesn't take a lot of skill to set up and apply. Basically if a guy is strong enough to hold someone down from the cross body position - then even without the proper knowledge to apply the keylock - they can still twist an opponent's arm enough to cause damage.

Generally applied from the cross body position - the keylock is the most base and basic of armlocks. By keeping the wrist close to the opponent's body as their elbow is raised up and moved down along the length of their body - pressure is applied to the shoulder and can result in torn muscles and ligaments.

NOTE: This GIF is not a great example of an Americana. The technique (as described above) is very sloppy. Waterman is finishing the hold simply because he is strong enough to twist it until it hurts his opponent. This was the only GIF I could find, so I had to use it.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/keylock-americana.gif[/IMG]

2. Armbar.
The armbar is the most versatile and common of submissions as it can be applied from almost any position. It utilizes the entire body to apply leverage against the opponent's elbow. Once the arm is extended - the tiniest amount of pressure can break the opponent's elbow or shatter the bones in their forearm.

In the first GIF, we see how a true Brazilian Jiujitsu master applies an armbar. Rickson has secured the top mount position and uses the advantage to slide into a picture perfect armbar. Note how close Rickson stays to his opponent. His leg swings around effortlessly. Rickson keeps the target arm trapped airtight against his chest. Has soon as his back touches the canvas - the lock is applied. Rickson is showing compassion in this GIF by not outright snapping Takada's arm in half. Rickson knows he has the advantage. Instead of permanently damaging his opponent - Rickson applies just enough pressure to make Takada tap.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/armbar-rickson.gif[/IMG]

Just as Rickson showed how to apply just enough pressure to make an opponent tap - in this GIF - Mir shows us what happens when a jiujitsu fighter's intention is not to submit his opponent - but to break his arm. Notice how Mir has the lock applied - but Big Tim tries to power his way out of it by standing up. Mir keeps the hold and pushes his hips through. There is a moment when Tim's arm looks all bendy like Stretch Masterson. That's the moment his forearm snapped. When asked about this at a later date - Tim said that he wished he would have tapped. Tim had to have his arm surgically repaired.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/mir-breaks-arm.gif[/IMG]

2B. Flying Armbar

Remember that I said armbars are dangerous because they are so versatile? They can be applied at any moment from almost any direction.

In this GIF Sato shows off his patented "flying armbar." Sato secures a grip on the target arm and jumps up allowing his opponent's natural reaction to pull away to support him as he swings his hips into position. Sato applies the armbar in a split second causing his opponent to tap.

NOTE: It is not recommended to try flying armbars in street situations. Concrete is much harder than a soft ring.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/rumino-sato-flyingarmbar.gif[/IMG]

2C. Armbar/Triangle Choke Combination.

Here we see the armbar being applied as part of a combination attack. Big Nog already has the triangle choke applied (see the section on Chokes for more) but his opponent is trying to power out before he can be choked unconscious. Nog decides to counter Coleman's escape by applying the armbar. Coleman taps from the armbar - but as he is released he stumbles as he was mere mili-seconds away from falling into unconsciousness.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/nog-armbar-triangle.gif[/IMG]

2D. Armbar Escape.

As in boxing - for every move in MMA, there is a counter to that move. Just as the right hand cross can counter a jab - an armbar can be escaped.

In this GIF, we see a slightly loose attempt at an armbar. There is a strategic error made as Lutter decided to use the leg in the armpit variation of the armbar. Because of this mistake, Rich is able to roll with the manuever, twist his arm and move around Lutter's body to change the angle of the armbar attack on his right arm. Because Rich is able to turn his elbow out - Lutter is unable to hyperextend it.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/armbar-escape.gif[/IMG]

3. Kimura/Shoulder lock.

This armlock was named after famed Japanese Judoka (Judo practitioner) Masahiko Kimura in honor of his victory over Brazilian Jiujitsu pioneer - Helio Gracie. Gracie so respected his Japanese opponent that he named the hold after the judoka.

[URL]********en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiko_Kimura#Kimura_vs._H.C3.A9lio_Gracie[/URL]

Generally applied from the cross body position (but can be applied from the guard as well) - this lock applies leverage against the opponent's shoulder. By using the legs to hold the opponent's head in place - all of the fighter's strength and leverage torques the shoulder to it's weakest direction. Applied for too long - a dislocated shoulder, torn muscles and ripped ligaments can occur.

In the first GIF - we see the cross body variation of the kimura. Fedor maintains his cross body positioning as he applies the shoulder lock.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/fedor-kimura.gif[/IMG]

In the following GIF, we see the technique applied with the greatest leverage as Maia uses his leg to hold the opponent's head close. This allows the jiujitsuan to apply the hold with complete control over his opponent. The opponent's other arm is trapped underneath leaving him no options for escape. He is forced to tap or have his shoulder dislocated.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/proper-kimura.gif[/IMG]

3A. Standing Straight Armbar/Kimura.

In this GIF, we see Renzo take Sakuraba's back in an attempt to gain a superior position. The Japanese shootwrestler decides to counter Renzo's takedown attempt by going for the straight armbar hold. By securing Renzo's wrist with both hands and turning out - Sakuraba is able to break Renzo's grip around his waist.

What follows is a high level exchange because Renzo immdiately tries to counter Sakuraba by sweeping Sak over as they hit the ground. Instead of landing with Sak on the bottom with Renzo over him - Sak bounces off the ropes which causes the kimura to hook deeply - breaking Renzo's arm at the elbow. As they scrambled - Sakuraba transitioned his hold from a straight armbar lock into a kimura shoulder lock - but is unable to apply further pressure to Renzo's shoulder because his arm already broke at the elbow.

Note: Renzo refuses to tap.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/sakuraba-renzo.gif[/IMG]

4. Shoulder Lock (from the Guard).

Here we see Mir using his superior position from the guard to secure a hold on Williams' arm. By locking his hands together to hold Williams' elbow tight - Mir then uses his legs to help him turn the elbow in - putting tremendous pressure on his opponent's elbow. If Mir continued to aplly this hold - Williams' arm would have been torn from it's socket.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/mir-shoulderlock.gif[/IMG]

5. Omoplata.

The omoplata is another way to apply a shoulder lock - except instead of being applied with one's arms - it is applied with one's legs. It is generally applied from the guard by trapping an opponent's arm with one's legs. The fighter then swings his body out - alongside his opponent's body and secures a hold over the opponent's back. At this point - the opponent will be trapped face down - unable to move. By leaning in and pulling one's legs back - the opponent's shoulder is torqued. If applied for too long - the shoulder can be severely damaged.

(NOT PICTURED. NEED GIF)

5A. Rolling Omoplata.

In this GIF we see a rare application of the omoplata shoulder lock as the lock is applied as a counter to the single leg takedown. To counter the takedown, the fighter traps the opponent's arm and rolls into the omoplata.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/rolling-omoplata.gif[/IMG]

5B. Reverse Omoplata.

Here we see the same locking principles of the omoplata applied from the bottom position. This is another rare variation of the omoplata - but is included here for reference.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/reverse-omoplata.gif[/IMG]

5C. Omoplata/Armbar Combination.

Here we see the fighter has trapped the opponent's arm and has spun out to the side to apply the omoplata. Since he is too far away from his opponent to reach over his back to apply pressure, the jiujitsuan decides to transition into a reverse armbar combination attack. Instead of pulling the arm down over the hips to hyperextend the elbow - the fighter uses the trapping leg of the omoplata as the leverage point to hyperextend the elbow.

This is another rare variation but is included for reference.

[IMG]********i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/inverted-armbar.gif[/IMG]

Grievesy · 06-05-2009, 02:41 PM

Great stuff sugar!

rekcutnevets · 06-05-2009, 09:19 PM

This is an excellent thread.

Quote:

Posted by sugarngold
What makes submissions so fascinating is more than just their ability to suddenly reverse the fortunes and end a fight like a knock out - but the fact that submissions utilize leverage against the weakest areas of the human anatomy to render an opponent helpless.

Another cool aspect of submissions is what the opponent remembers. With a ko, the loser may not be aware of what happened. How many times have you seen victims of a knock out keep going after their opponent once it is too late? When someone submits, not only does the loser remember what was done; that person knows quitting was the action taken.

Burundanga · 06-06-2009, 09:36 AM

Dude this is great stuff. I'm looking for a peruvian necktie gif....not a common sub but a real beauty and easier to apply than many of the more common subs.

sugarngold · 06-06-2009, 01:21 PM

Thanks for the kind words, guys. I haven't had enough time to finish this segment yet - so I'm having to do it in stages. I'll be sure to bump the thread once it's ready.

sugarngold · 06-06-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rekcutnevets

This is an excellent thread.

Another cool aspect of submissions is what the opponent remembers. With a ko, the loser may not be aware of what happened. How many times have you seen victims of a knock out keep going after their opponent once it is too late? When someone submits, not only does the loser remember what was done; that person knows quitting was the action taken.

Good point - but I must admit that I have seen guys get choked in the dojo and then wake up not realizing what happened.

"What are you doing?"

"Huh? I was just taking a nap."

"Dude, you just got choked out."

"What? I dreamed I was at home watching TV."

This was a real conversation with a guy after he was choked out by a triangle choke. Funny stuff.

rekcutnevets · 06-09-2009, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Posted by sugarngold
Good point - but I must admit that I have seen guys get choked in the dojo and then wake up not realizing what happened.

I see what you are saying, and am not trying to start an argumentative back and forth.

I was speaking more towards a fighter submitting in an officiated match, and tapping before being rendered unconscious or bone broken.

When I posted earlier, I was thinking of Ken Shamrock and Royce Gracie. Gracie had submitted Shamrock rather easily in their first encounter. Shamrock began studying BJJ, took advantage of his size, and took absolutely no chances in their rematch. I believe that Shamrock was content to ride out a boring draw than take any chance on winning. I think that Shamrock was afraid of what would happen if he made the slightest mistake.

AJAX · 06-09-2009, 10:15 PM

Nice work Asugar

QuestionKid7 · 06-10-2009, 03:39 AM

I don't have any gifs but if someone has any of these they are good submissions

Bravo Choke / D'arce Choke (easily preformed from spawl like position)

Anaconda Choke (easily preformed from spawl like position)

Knee Bar (sorry if someone put this up I didn't see it)

Heel Hook (different from your regular straight ankle lock. It twists the ankle, which in turn torques the knee damaging ligaments. VERY DANGEROUS)

Omoplota (attacks the arm by using your legs bascialy)

Gogoplota (choke opponent with your shin)

splasher25 · 06-10-2009, 07:33 AM

Quality thread, keep up the good work.

This should be sticky-ed!

sugarngold · 06-10-2009, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuestionKid7

I don't have any gifs but if someone has any of these they are good submissions

Bravo Choke / D'arce Choke (easily preformed from spawl like position)

Anaconda Choke (easily preformed from spawl like position)

Knee Bar (sorry if someone put this up I didn't see it)

Heel Hook (different from your regular straight ankle lock. It twists the ankle, which in turn torques the knee damaging ligaments. VERY DANGEROUS)

Omoplota (attacks the arm by using your legs bascialy)

Gogoplota (choke opponent with your shin)

Thanks for the suggestions. I still have to finish the armlocks section and then move on to the chokes and leglocks. Hopefully, we'll have them all covered once they're posted. It's been a hectic week - so I haven't been able to work on it yet.

sugarngold · 07-03-2009, 04:46 PM

Since this Yank is home celebrating the Fourth of July

, I've taken the time to complete the armlock section.

If there are any jiujitsu/sambo/judo guys lurking around - please feel free to point out inaccuracies or PM corrections to me.

Thanks!

sugarngold · 10-04-2009, 09:22 PM

Which section should I cover next? Leglocks? Chokes?

196osh · 10-05-2009, 07:17 AM

Chokes woud be nice. Only thing is about the RNC, 10 seconds to brain damage?

You can have your heart stopped for a couple of minutes before you start to experience noticable damage.

06-04-2009, 09:04 PM	#17
sugarngold RIDDUM East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mutantville, North Carolina Posts: 9,257 vCash: 200	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* I. ARMLOCKS [IMG]******i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/fedor-armbar-god.gif[/IMG] 1. Keylock/Americana.** I always start with the keylock - because it is the most common armlock. It's the simplest to apply because it doesn't take a lot of skill to set up and apply. Basically if a guy is strong enough to hold someone down from the cross body position - then even without the proper knowledge to apply the keylock - they can still twist an opponent's arm enough to cause damage. Generally applied from the cross body position - the keylock is the most base and basic of armlocks. By keeping the wrist close to the opponent's body as their elbow is raised up and moved down along the length of their body - pressure is applied to the shoulder and can result in torn muscles and ligaments. NOTE: This GIF is not a great example of an Americana. The technique (as described above) is very sloppy. Waterman is finishing the hold simply because he is strong enough to twist it until it hurts his opponent. This was the only GIF I could find, so I had to use it. [IMG]******i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/keylock-americana.gif[/IMG] 2. Armbar. The armbar is the most versatile and common of submissions as it can be applied from almost any position. It utilizes the entire body to apply leverage against the opponent's elbow. Once the arm is extended - the tiniest amount of pressure can break the opponent's elbow or shatter the bones in their forearm. In the first GIF, we see how a true Brazilian Jiujitsu master applies an armbar. Rickson has secured the top mount position and uses the advantage to slide into a picture perfect armbar. Note how close Rickson stays to his opponent. His leg swings around effortlessly. Rickson keeps the target arm trapped airtight against his chest. Has soon as his back touches the canvas - the lock is applied. Rickson is showing compassion in this GIF by not outright snapping Takada's arm in half. Rickson knows he has the advantage. Instead of permanently damaging his opponent - Rickson applies just enough pressure to make Takada tap. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/armbar-rickson.gif[/IMG] Just as Rickson showed how to apply just enough pressure to make an opponent tap - in this GIF - Mir shows us what happens when a jiujitsu fighter's intention is not to submit his opponent - but to break his arm. Notice how Mir has the lock applied - but Big Tim tries to power his way out of it by standing up. Mir keeps the hold and pushes his hips through. There is a moment when Tim's arm looks all bendy like Stretch Masterson. That's the moment his forearm snapped. When asked about this at a later date - Tim said that he wished he would have tapped. Tim had to have his arm surgically repaired. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/mir-breaks-arm.gif[/IMG] 2B. Flying Armbar Remember that I said armbars are dangerous because they are so versatile? They can be applied at any moment from almost any direction. In this GIF Sato shows off his patented "flying armbar." Sato secures a grip on the target arm and jumps up allowing his opponent's natural reaction to pull away to support him as he swings his hips into position. Sato applies the armbar in a split second causing his opponent to tap. NOTE: It is not recommended to try flying armbars in street situations. Concrete is much harder than a soft ring. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/rumino-sato-flyingarmbar.gif[/IMG] 2C. Armbar/Triangle Choke Combination. Here we see the armbar being applied as part of a combination attack. Big Nog already has the triangle choke applied (see the section on Chokes for more) but his opponent is trying to power out before he can be choked unconscious. Nog decides to counter Coleman's escape by applying the armbar. Coleman taps from the armbar - but as he is released he stumbles as he was mere mili-seconds away from falling into unconsciousness. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/nog-armbar-triangle.gif[/IMG] 2D. Armbar Escape. As in boxing - for every move in MMA, there is a counter to that move. Just as the right hand cross can counter a jab - an armbar can be escaped. In this GIF, we see a slightly loose attempt at an armbar. There is a strategic error made as Lutter decided to use the leg in the armpit variation of the armbar. Because of this mistake, Rich is able to roll with the manuever, twist his arm and move around Lutter's body to change the angle of the armbar attack on his right arm. Because Rich is able to turn his elbow out - Lutter is unable to hyperextend it. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/armbar-escape.gif[/IMG] 3. Kimura/Shoulder lock. This armlock was named after famed Japanese Judoka (Judo practitioner) Masahiko Kimura in honor of his victory over Brazilian Jiujitsu pioneer - Helio Gracie. Gracie so respected his Japanese opponent that he named the hold after the judoka. [URL]*****en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masahiko_Kimura#Kimura_vs._H.C3.A9lio_Gracie[/URL] Generally applied from the cross body position (but can be applied from the guard as well) - this lock applies leverage against the opponent's shoulder. By using the legs to hold the opponent's head in place - all of the fighter's strength and leverage torques the shoulder to it's weakest direction. Applied for too long - a dislocated shoulder, torn muscles and ripped ligaments can occur. In the first GIF - we see the cross body variation of the kimura. Fedor maintains his cross body positioning as he applies the shoulder lock.* [IMG]******i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/fedor-kimura.gif[/IMG] In the following GIF, we see the technique applied with the greatest leverage as Maia uses his leg to hold the opponent's head close. This allows the jiujitsuan to apply the hold with complete control over his opponent. The opponent's other arm is trapped underneath leaving him no options for escape. He is forced to tap or have his shoulder dislocated. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/proper-kimura.gif[/IMG] 3A. Standing Straight Armbar/Kimura. In this GIF, we see Renzo take Sakuraba's back in an attempt to gain a superior position. The Japanese shootwrestler decides to counter Renzo's takedown attempt by going for the straight armbar hold. By securing Renzo's wrist with both hands and turning out - Sakuraba is able to break Renzo's grip around his waist. What follows is a high level exchange because Renzo immdiately tries to counter Sakuraba by sweeping Sak over as they hit the ground. Instead of landing with Sak on the bottom with Renzo over him - Sak bounces off the ropes which causes the kimura to hook deeply - breaking Renzo's arm at the elbow. As they scrambled - Sakuraba transitioned his hold from a straight armbar lock into a kimura shoulder lock - but is unable to apply further pressure to Renzo's shoulder because his arm already broke at the elbow. Note: Renzo refuses to tap. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/sakuraba-renzo.gif[/IMG] 4. Shoulder Lock (from the Guard). Here we see Mir using his superior position from the guard to secure a hold on Williams' arm. By locking his hands together to hold Williams' elbow tight - Mir then uses his legs to help him turn the elbow in - putting tremendous pressure on his opponent's elbow. If Mir continued to aplly this hold - Williams' arm would have been torn from it's socket. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/mir-shoulderlock.gif[/IMG] 5. Omoplata. The omoplata is another way to apply a shoulder lock - except instead of being applied with one's arms - it is applied with one's legs. It is generally applied from the guard by trapping an opponent's arm with one's legs. The fighter then swings his body out - alongside his opponent's body and secures a hold over the opponent's back. At this point - the opponent will be trapped face down - unable to move. By leaning in and pulling one's legs back - the opponent's shoulder is torqued. If applied for too long - the shoulder can be severely damaged. (NOT PICTURED. NEED GIF) 5A. Rolling Omoplata. In this GIF we see a rare application of the omoplata shoulder lock as the lock is applied as a counter to the single leg takedown. To counter the takedown, the fighter traps the opponent's arm and rolls into the omoplata. [IMG]****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/rolling-omoplata.gif[/IMG] 5B. Reverse Omoplata.** Here we see the same locking principles of the omoplata applied from the bottom position. This is another rare variation of the omoplata - but is included here for reference. [IMG]******i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/reverse-omoplata.gif[/IMG] 5C. Omoplata/Armbar Combination. Here we see the fighter has trapped the opponent's arm and has spun out to the side to apply the omoplata. Since he is too far away from his opponent to reach over his back to apply pressure, the jiujitsuan decides to transition into a reverse armbar combination attack. Instead of pulling the arm down over the hips to hyperextend the elbow - the fighter uses the trapping leg of the omoplata as the leverage point to hyperextend the elbow. This is another rare variation but is included for reference. [IMG]*****i71.photobucket.com/albums/i153/Streebo/MMA/inverted-armbar.gif[/IMG] Last edited by sugarngold; 07-03-2009 at 06:59 PM. Reason: UPDATED.*
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06-05-2009, 02:41 PM	#18
Grievesy Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,737 vCash: 309	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Great stuff sugar!
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06-06-2009, 09:36 AM	#20
Burundanga Renaissance Man ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 20,000 BC Posts: 247 vCash: 1000	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Dude this is great stuff. I'm looking for a peruvian necktie gif....not a common sub but a real beauty and easier to apply than many of the more common subs.
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06-06-2009, 01:21 PM	#21
sugarngold RIDDUM East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mutantville, North Carolina Posts: 9,257 vCash: 200	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Thanks for the kind words, guys. I haven't had enough time to finish this segment yet - so I'm having to do it in stages. I'll be sure to bump the thread once it's ready.
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06-09-2009, 10:15 PM	#24
AJAX war sonnen! ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The Great White North Posts: 4,034 vCash: 3450	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Nice work Asugar
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06-10-2009, 03:39 AM	#25
QuestionKid7 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: BC,Canada Posts: 209 vCash: 1000	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* I don't have any gifs but if someone has any of these they are good submissions Bravo Choke / D'arce Choke (easily preformed from spawl like position) Anaconda Choke (easily preformed from spawl like position) Knee Bar (sorry if someone put this up I didn't see it) Heel Hook (different from your regular straight ankle lock. It twists the ankle, which in turn torques the knee damaging ligaments. VERY DANGEROUS) Omoplota (attacks the arm by using your legs bascialy) Gogoplota (choke opponent with your shin)
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06-10-2009, 07:33 AM	#26
splasher25 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: England Posts: 512 vCash: 1000	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Quality thread, keep up the good work. This should be sticky-ed!
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07-03-2009, 04:46 PM	#28
sugarngold RIDDUM East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mutantville, North Carolina Posts: 9,257 vCash: 200	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Since this Yank is home celebrating the Fourth of July , I've taken the time to complete the armlock section. If there are any jiujitsu/sambo/judo guys lurking around - please feel free to point out inaccuracies or PM corrections to me. Thanks!
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10-04-2009, 09:22 PM	#29
sugarngold RIDDUM East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mutantville, North Carolina Posts: 9,257 vCash: 200	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Which section should I cover next? Leglocks? Chokes?
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10-05-2009, 07:17 AM	#30
196osh Mendes Bros. East Side Guru Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 7,291 vCash: 277	Re: *ESB's Official MMA Forum's Guide to MMA Submissions (GIFS & VIDS)* Chokes woud be nice. Only thing is about the RNC, 10 seconds to brain damage? You can have your heart stopped for a couple of minutes before you start to experience noticable damage.
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