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Old 06-24-2009, 07:31 AM   #1
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:33 AM   #2
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Sugar Ray Leonard... because seeing is believing.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:36 AM   #3
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Enjoy these rounds. I'm jealous of you, seeing it for the first time:

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Old 06-24-2009, 07:46 AM   #4
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Sugar Ray, just.
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Sugar Ray, just.
I have them back to back too, but the other way. Not so sure though.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:49 AM   #6
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I have them back to back too, but the other way. Not so sure though.
I was not impressed with the video of Benny you post.

On that basis, Sugar.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:50 AM   #7
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I was not impressed with the video of Benny you post.
I guess there's just no impressing some people!
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:52 AM   #8
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Benny.

Britton, Kilblane, Dundee, Tendler, Welsh, White..and those are just the ones off the top of my head.

Ray may have him for top end wins..but for depth, longevity and dominance over his best weight I think Benny has one of the best resumes ever.
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:52 AM   #9
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I guess there's just no impressing some people!
Not at all, show me a video of Arguello shooting his straight right hand, or a video of Benitez fighting off the ropes against Duran in the last round
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:56 AM   #10
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Very nice footage, how much other footage is there of Benny, do you know ?
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:10 AM   #11
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Very nice footage, how much other footage is there of Benny, do you know ?
I think that is all that is on YouTube.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:29 AM   #12
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Dont think the complete Tendler fight is on youtube.

I rank Benny over SRL imo.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:59 AM   #13
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I have Benny higher all time, by 2 spots I believe.
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Old 06-24-2009, 10:57 AM   #14
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Benny, blatantly.

Ray was awesome, but you can't compare with such a difference in dominance and longevity.

Then of course Benny fought fantastic talents also.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:38 AM   #15
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i wasn't impressed at all. i think he would struggle today. apart from fighting regularly, nothing impresses me from this era or before it. of course i admire a guy like leonard or say dempsey, for me they shaped the foundations of 'modern' (say,post-war or 30 onwards) from the boxing and aggressive counterparts. but i feel the same way as i do when i saw for instance tunney or jack johnson:i've seen it done a lot better since by less lauded fighters. only my opinion though, and note i respect the toughness any innovation of these men.
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