Andy Lee - Page 3

pijo · 10-16-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Strangely Brown

I don't know why people born in the U.S. don't call themselves American - they should be proud of that and stop going back through their ancestors to find an identity.

In my mind if you are born and live in the U.S. and have Irish parentage, you're still bloody American.

All this 1/3 Italian, half Polish and 1/4 Irish does my nut in.......

slapbangwhallop · 10-16-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vantage_West

in the uk it's cool to be irish becuase you have a lower lcass beaten man essence about irlenad where as being english is more of a upper class thing.

it's hard to explain but i hope this willgive you an understanding

shit talk!! Ireland is a richer country than the UK - higher standard of living, better educated, long life expectance etc etc etc!

British and more accurately English people are disliked across the world because they are murdering ignorant and arrogant wankers! I know that will hit a nerve with many English people on here but the fact is that it is true.

slapbangwhallop · 10-16-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pijo

My step-dads next door neighbour's dog's irish, am i?

no, you can only stay as an unemployed former potter!

archie · 10-16-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by puca

Lee is a great talent and the questions about his chin were for me answered during his senior amateur days.He fought the best in the world russians ,cubans,european,world and olympic medalists and was never even knocked down not to mind out.
I know the two sports are diffrent but a slap on the chin is a slap on the chin and if youre chinny it will be found out at amateur level.

An interesting point about his amateur experience and you might be right about the measure of the old chin resistance being tested before he turned pro...and whilst my point is a bit off the subject, for which I apologies, but it did get me thinking....was Amir repeatadly knocked down in the his amateur days? As people keep claiming he has no chin? Is there any evidence of this in his non-paid days? I know Limond put him down, but anyone has a punchers chance if they connect..my question is "does Amirs amateur career" suggest he has no chin, or are people just looking to criticise him for being a star already?..we English do have a habit and history of knocking those who appear to be succesful without reason to do so...

pijo · 10-16-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by slapbangwhallop

no, you can only stay as an unemployed former potter!

Cheers for clearing it up for me mate.

elle · 10-16-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by archie

...and whilst my point is a bit off the subject, for which I apologies, but it did get me thinking....was Amir repeatadly knocked down in the his amateur days? As people keep claiming he has no chin? Is there any evidence of this in his non-paid days? I know Limond put him down, but anyone has a punchers chance if they connect..my question is "does Amirs amateur career" suggest he has no chin, or are people just looking to criticise him for being a star already?..we English do have a habit and history of knocking those who appear to be succesful without reason to do so...

Khan did get dropped heavily by Craig Watson towards the end of his amateur career so yes there was some evidence of a suspect chin before he turned pro.

archie · 10-16-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elle

Khan did get dropped heavily by Craig Watson towards the end of his amateur career so yes there was some evidence of a suspect chin before he turned pro.

Thanks for you reply..how many amateur fights did Amir have? As being kncked down "once" does not indicate a propensity to "go down", unless he only had one amateur fight?..however, having had a chance to google Amirs amateur record, it appears (unless I am mistaken) he had approx 50 amateur fights..therefore if Craig was his only blemish (in terms of being knocked down) then thats suggests that Amir got knocked down in ONLY 2% of his amateur fights..now I am no statitician, but that does not suggest a dodgy chin???

elle · 10-16-2007, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by archie

Thanks for you reply..how many amateur fights did Amir have? As being kncked down "once" does not indicate a propensity to "go down", unless he only had one amateur fight?..however, having had a chance to google Amirs amateur record, it appears (unless I am mistaken) he had approx 50 amateur fights..therefore if Craig was his only blemish (in terms of being knocked down) then thats suggests that Amir got knocked down in ONLY 2% of his amateur fights..now I am no statitician, but that does not suggest a dodgy chin???

I don't know how many fights Khan had but he was an outstanding amateur.

It is not the Watson knockdown alone that suggests his chin is questionable - there is also evidence of it in his relatively short pro career to date. The fact he is consistently put in with light hitting opponents also suggests a weakness.

archie · 10-16-2007, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by elle

I don't know how many fights Khan had but he was an outstanding amateur.

It is not the Watson knockdown alone that suggests his chin is questionable - there is also evidence of it in his relatively short pro career to date. The fact he is consistently put in with light hitting opponents also suggests a weakness.

Good point..I guess if he fights Earl or Thaxton next, then this will surely test his punch resistance..we shall see...

slapbangwhallop · 10-17-2007, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pijo

Cheers for clearing it up for me mate.

made a trip to Hanley today - never seen ya there!

ron u.k. · 10-17-2007, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by slapbangwhallop

shit talk!! Ireland is a richer country than the UK - higher standard of living, better educated, long life expectance etc etc etc!

British and more accurately English people are disliked across the world because they are murdering ignorant and arrogant wankers! I know that will hit a nerve with many English people on here but the fact is that it is true.

bigot and a noob at that.

GazOC · 10-17-2007, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by slapbangwhallop

shit talk!! Ireland is a richer country than the UK - higher standard of living, better educated, long life expectance etc etc etc!

British and more accurately English people are disliked across the world because they are murdering ignorant and arrogant wankers! I know that will hit a nerve with many English people on here but the fact is that it is true.

Thats a pretty lazy and ignorant generalization.