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Old 06-29-2009, 08:03 PM   #31
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I see Cotto stopping Pacquiao in the later rounds of this bout, and respect Pacquiao tremendously for taking this fight.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:05 PM   #32
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Hi friends, I thought id like to tell you before hand about this upcoming victory for the Puerto Rican.

Paquaio is the best fighter on the planet, and this loss won't change that, but Cotto is a step to far for the smaller man, lets break it down a tad. Pac's best attribute for him recently has been he's speed, it was more this than he's power that beffudled Oscar and knocked out Hatton, he has phenominal speed.......to neutralise speed you need a good jab, enter Miguel Cotto, the man is naturally left handed and has switched to an orthadox stance, he's jab is like a power punch.
Cotto also deals with speed well, look at Mosley and Judah as im sure some of you have refered to when thinking of this fight.

Cotto hits VERY hard, and lets not forget that Manny is a small 140lbs fighter, he shouldn't be fighting welter weights, especially a bull like Cotto. Cotto will hurt manny to the body, Cotto is a great counter puncher aswell, Clottey was to scared to take he's gloves away from he's face for the last 3 rounds of their bout because he felt the power and accuracy of Cottos counters.

Cotto is a great finisher, and Pac doesn't know how to hold on, Cotto will stop him, id go on but this is turning into a long post.......
Nice analysis. However, I have to point out that Cotto must tighten his peek-a-boo stance. It is wide at the middle--Perfect for an uppercut, or even a straight left as we all know it is the Pacman's bread and butter.

I have no predictions for the outcome of this fight. I just think that it will be very entertaining since both fighters refuse to hold like lonely little bitches asking for the warmth of another man's embrace.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:10 PM   #33
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good analyis. cotto's guard was way to open to clottey's accurate punches. pac's left is a ****ing laser; he will break cotto's nose by round 2 and keeping moving in and out, pouring on the punches
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:12 PM   #34
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It took Margarito 10 rounds of non stop punching to break Cotto's will, and he had to walk through bombs to do that, Pac can't take them kind of punches, also Margarito defended he's body fantasically, Pac won't watch Marquez-Pac 2 and see how badly hurt Pac gets when he is hit with body shots in around the 8th round. Cotto will time him perfectly and stop him.
its because margarito can't play the hit ang not get hit game. pacquaio can
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:16 PM   #35
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I see Pac breaking down Cotto systematically. I give the power edge to Cotto, but I believe pac will hit 3-1 if not 4-1. at those punch stats, it wont matter that pac isnt as powerful as cotto. the shear volume of punches that Pac delievers will wear down most boxers. As long as pac doesnt get hit by the Cotto left in the process, Pac will TKO Cotto
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:21 PM   #36
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Watching the Marquez fights, Pac improved big time because of those 24 rounds with Marquez. He learned as he fought.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:27 PM   #37
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As much as I like Pac, I also have to give credit to Freddie Roach. Its the combination of these two that makes Pac a great fighter. Freddie develops the game and Pac executes. I can only imagine after being hit that instincts take over training, but Pac seems to keep his head in it. I believe this is one of many reason he is so successful.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:01 AM   #38
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that first clip of pacquiao/marquez looks similar to sequence of punches that knocked out hatton.
I was thinking the same thing when watching the fight the other day. I keep telling people that marquez's chin is underated, the man has been 24 rounds with pacquiao and been knocked down 4 times and hasnt been stopped. People still seem to think PBF will stop him.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:14 AM   #39
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Hi friends, I thought id like to tell you before hand about this upcoming victory for the Puerto Rican.

Paquaio is the best fighter on the planet, and this loss won't change that, but Cotto is a step to far for the smaller man, lets break it down a tad. Pac's best attribute for him recently has been he's speed, it was more this than he's power that beffudled Oscar and knocked out Hatton, he has phenominal speed.......to neutralise speed you need a good jab, enter Miguel Cotto, the man is naturally left handed and has switched to an orthadox stance, he's jab is like a power punch.
Cotto also deals with speed well, look at Mosley and Judah as im sure some of you have refered to when thinking of this fight.

Cotto hits VERY hard, and lets not forget that Manny is a small 140lbs fighter, he shouldn't be fighting welter weights, especially a bull like Cotto. Cotto will hurt manny to the body, Cotto is a great counter puncher aswell, Clottey was to scared to take he's gloves away from he's face for the last 3 rounds of their bout because he felt the power and accuracy of Cottos counters.

Cotto is a great finisher, and Pac doesn't know how to hold on, Cotto will stop him, id go on but this is turning into a long post.......
You can't compare SSM and Judahs speed to pac....The thing is, pac has fast hands, YES, but its more on pacs footwork...
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:18 AM   #40
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If pac can handle cotto's punches.. then its all over..
Yep.

Thats the big question really. If Cotto can't hurt Pacquiao with individual punches he cannot win. If Cotto can't do enough damage to sap Manny's confidence early Manny will out-exchange him with much better handspeed, timing and combination punching ability. Pac will also be much harder to hit than Clottey and Margarito, particularly to the body, which is a huge part of Cotto's game (people talk about Clottey like he is Pernell Whitaker, but he is a stationary target and easy to flurry on whether its clean or not).

There is a big unknown in the form of Pacquiao's ability to take a shot from a big guy like Cotto, but i see Pac's offensive abilities matching up perfectly with Cotto's defensive liabilities.

Pac gets the stoppage late.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:23 AM   #41
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I was thinking the same thing when watching the fight the other day. I keep telling people that marquez's chin is underated, the man has been 24 rounds with pacquiao and been knocked down 4 times and hasnt been stopped. People still seem to think PBF will stop him.
actually i think it is pretty accurate. jmm's recovery rate kinda covers up for his chin. what is prolly being underated is the effect his high altitude training does for him. all that extra red blood cells just helps him recovery very quickly.

going back to the thread, i would hate it if cotto wins this fight the way he won it vs clottey. running punctuated with flurries at the end.
against a smaller man, it will definitely look cowardly. and yet that is prolly one way he can truthfully beat pac.
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Old 06-30-2009, 10:39 AM   #42
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Pac by 5... Not a nuthugger, but Cotto's style is perfect for Pacquiao.

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Old 07-05-2009, 06:50 PM   #43
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actually i think it is pretty accurate. jmm's recovery rate kinda covers up for his chin. what is prolly being underated is the effect his high altitude training does for him. all that extra red blood cells just helps him recovery very quickly.

going back to the thread, i would hate it if cotto wins this fight the way he won it vs clottey. running punctuated with flurries at the end.
against a smaller man, it will definitely look cowardly. and yet that is prolly one way he can truthfully beat pac.
Not many have taken flush shots from pacquiao and survived to fight him again. Marquez's recuperative abilities are amazing though, i wouldnt count on any fighter carrying on fighting from 3 pacquiao knockdowns in the first round.
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I Don't see the point of PAC V COTTO

Rumour has it manny wants to retire after this fight to get into politics

but we all know there will be a MEGA Money fight with Floyd in 2010

so what is the point of him risking a fight and possibly a loss to cotto????

In My Opinion he should face

Bradley and Berto

if he does he could wind titles at 140 & 147

This would cement his Legacy in History and HYPE the PBF Fight even more!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so why risk fighting cotto??????
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Old 07-05-2009, 07:59 PM   #45
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Hi friends, I thought id like to tell you before hand about this upcoming victory for the Puerto Rican.

Paquaio is the best fighter on the planet, and this loss won't change that, but Cotto is a step to far for the smaller man, lets break it down a tad. Pac's best attribute for him recently has been he's speed, it was more this than he's power that beffudled Oscar and knocked out Hatton, he has phenominal speed.......to neutralise speed you need a good jab, enter Miguel Cotto, the man is naturally left handed and has switched to an orthadox stance, he's jab is like a power punch.
Cotto also deals with speed well, look at Mosley and Judah as im sure some of you have refered to when thinking of this fight.

Cotto hits VERY hard, and lets not forget that Manny is a small 140lbs fighter, he shouldn't be fighting welter weights, especially a bull like Cotto. Cotto will hurt manny to the body, Cotto is a great counter puncher aswell, Clottey was to scared to take he's gloves away from he's face for the last 3 rounds of their bout because he felt the power and accuracy of Cottos counters.

Cotto is a great finisher, and Pac doesn't know how to hold on, Cotto will stop him, id go on but this is turning into a long post.......
You could very well be right but there is only one fighter Id bet big money to beat this current Pacquiao & Cotto aint that man.
Pac is in the form of his life, Id only bet big on Mayweather to beat him & even at that Id have to study how he looks vs JMM.

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