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Old 06-18-2007, 09:52 AM   #16
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aint that the truth, fuck it hs stepping up like we all were crying out for.
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Old 06-18-2007, 10:59 AM   #17
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Hamed mess? How so?
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:55 AM   #18
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Khans done and said a few things that have made me think shut up or piss off BUT he's never done anything to make someone campaign against him like Amster does.
And the campaign marches on, if the rest of the anti-Khan train has o stamina and want to give in to the demon, then so be it, I am relentless however and this thread replaces the one that was deleted, I will not make any more.

It had to be made because new posters who come along must know that Khan has a china chin, is a social joke, is a bad hype job that is violently offencive to seasoned boxing fans and is nothing special.

And yes, Willie is limited, I support Willie and I want him to win and expose this fraud, but nobody will ever declare that he's a dynamic fighter, if he was, he'd obviously be at a bigger level.
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Old 06-18-2007, 11:59 AM   #19
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And the campaign marches on, if the rest of the anti-Khan train has o stamina and want to give in to the demon, then so be it, I am relentless however and this thread replaces the one that was deleted, I will not make any more.

It had to be made because new posters who come along must know that Khan has a china chin, is a social joke, is a bad hype job that is violently offencive to seasoned boxing fans and is nothing special.

And yes, Willie is limited, I support Willie and I want him to win and expose this fraud, but nobody will ever declare that he's a dynamic fighter, if he was, he'd obviously be at a bigger level.
Khan is no fraud you idiot.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:04 PM   #20
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And the campaign marches on, if the rest of the anti-Khan train has o stamina and want to give in to the demon, then so be it, I am relentless however and this thread replaces the one that was deleted, I will not make any more.

It had to be made because new posters who come along must know that Khan has a china chin, is a social joke, is a bad hype job that is violently offencive to seasoned boxing fans and is nothing special.

And yes, Willie is limited, I support Willie and I want him to win and expose this fraud, but nobody will ever declare that he's a dynamic fighter, if he was, he'd obviously be at a bigger level.
It really is boring buddy... Who in the domestic ratings can punch that you feel would have been a sensible match up for ****** to make.

I take it you think the one count Amir suffered as an AM makes him suspect...... Well Muhammed Ali must have been awful in the chin department because he got KO'd twice as an amateur. Eamon Magee got stopped, Ricky Hatton got knocked out, Nigel Benn, David Tua both were Ko'd.

Your argument against Khans chin has no basis and makes your opinion seem a bit corrupt which in a forum is pretty devestating when you do have a wothwhilepoint about something.
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Old 06-18-2007, 12:20 PM   #21
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It really is boring buddy... Who in the domestic ratings can punch that you feel would have been a sensible match up for ****** to make.

I take it you think the one count Amir suffered as an AM makes him suspect...... Well Muhammed Ali must have been awful in the chin department because he got KO'd twice as an amateur. Eamon Magee got stopped, Ricky Hatton got knocked out, Nigel Benn, David Tua both were Ko'd.

Your argument against Khans chin has no basis and makes your opinion seem a bit corrupt which in a forum is pretty devestating when you do have a wothwhilepoint about something.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:17 PM   #22
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His chin is untested full stop. But to suggest good pros like Limond anad Khan will outbox the guy is ludicrous. The only person to have outboxed Khan is Kindelan in their first fight. He couldnt repeat the trick although was a worthy winner in the olympic final. To suggest guys that are simply not in Kindelans class like Limind and Earl could do it when Khan has got older, bigger, stronger and quicker is rediculous.

I think Amsterdam you will have to wait a while before you start crowing, maybe till genuine world level, but by then he would have proved you wrong by actually getting to that level
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:24 PM   #23
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Khan is no fraud you idiot.
He's absolutely a fraud.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:30 PM   #24
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It really is boring buddy... Who in the domestic ratings can punch that you feel would have been a sensible match up for ****** to make.

I take it you think the one count Amir suffered as an AM makes him suspect...... Well Muhammed Ali must have been awful in the chin department because he got KO'd twice as an amateur. Eamon Magee got stopped, Ricky Hatton got knocked out, Nigel Benn, David Tua both were Ko'd.

Your argument against Khans chin has no basis and makes your opinion seem a bit corrupt which in a forum is pretty devestating when you do have a wothwhilepoint about something.
There is a process of checking chins, it all has to do with theorizing, and to this date, I have never been wrong in calling a chin where it stands...

Which is around 25 or so total hype job jokes in the past 3 years that people were high on initially or found "potential" in.

So when the little cunt gets KTFO, are you going to say that you need substantial evidence to correctly theorize and call a glass chin, or some other intangible deficiency when someone who does this frequently, at a 100% success rate to this date calls it?

I don't need substantial concrete evidence, little clear bits and pieces that make up a whole are good enough for me and it's never failed yet.

So again, when Khan gets brutally KTFO before even reaching decent title contention, after all of this embarassing hype, maybe you all who are apologetic to this ridiculous situation involving a non-special joke, will have learned something about hype jobs and chin checking.

Furthermore, I don't care if a few people think that my Khan analysis is overboard and then don't listen to me when I am right, I have been wrong here and there but I am generally one of the most knowledgable posters around and WE ALL learn something new as students of the this great sport, so if they want to miss out on something that is on target, so be it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 03:44 PM   #25
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Evidence?
Check the records of the guys he's fought. They're not just the usual tomato cans and no-hopers a prospect faces on the way up, they are CAREFULLY selected LIGHT-HITTING tomato cans and no hopers. Even this Scottish guy he's about to fight - who's a step up - has been carefully selected because he has very few KOs.

When handlers specifically select feather-fisted opponents, there is usually a reason - and that reason is that their meal-ticket doesn't take a great shot, and they KNOW it.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:16 PM   #26
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There is a process of checking chins, it all has to do with theorizing, and to this date, I have never been wrong in calling a chin where it stands...

Which is around 25 or so total hype job jokes in the past 3 years that people were high on initially or found "potential" in.

So when the little cunt gets KTFO, are you going to say that you need substantial evidence to correctly theorize and call a glass chin, or some other intangible deficiency when someone who does this frequently, at a 100% success rate to this date calls it?

I don't need substantial concrete evidence, little clear bits and pieces that make up a whole are good enough for me and it's never failed yet.

So again, when Khan gets brutally KTFO before even reaching decent title contention, after all of this embarassing hype, maybe you all who are apologetic to this ridiculous situation involving a non-special joke, will have learned something about hype jobs and chin checking.

Furthermore, I don't care if a few people think that my Khan analysis is overboard and then don't listen to me when I am right, I have been wrong here and there but I am generally one of the most knowledgable posters around and WE ALL learn something new as students of the this great sport, so if they want to miss out on something that is on target, so be it.
So your thoery is based on a sixth sense which is the ability to sense a dodgy chin- excellent. Shame you don't do lottery numbers.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:23 PM   #27
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So your thoery is based on a sixth sense which is the ability to sense a dodgy chin- excellent. Shame you don't do lottery numbers.
Not even the same thing. I can do other things that are similiar when you have given factors and noticeable trends with small bits and pieces of evidence that come together as a whole, but who CAN'T?

That's why this whole "there is no conrete evidence" is ridiculous, it's right there in your face that the kid, and others, can't take a shot if you just look for it.

So you think it's ridiculous how I have theorized Khan's chin being bad off of "nothing", but let me ask you this, how come I have called plenty of others in the same way? And guess what, the fans of the set hype jobs were always giving me the same type of feedback, "how do you KNOW".

Seems that I knew something, because there joker boy was KTFO or exposed in some other fashion that related to taking a shot....
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:43 PM   #28
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Check the records of the guys he's fought. They're not just the usual tomato cans and no-hopers a prospect faces on the way up, they are CAREFULLY selected LIGHT-HITTING tomato cans and no hopers. Even this Scottish guy he's about to fight - who's a step up - has been carefully selected because he has very few KOs.

When handlers specifically select feather-fisted opponents, there is usually a reason - and that reason is that their meal-ticket doesn't take a great shot, and they KNOW it.
What do you actually know about any of Khans opponents? I reckon all you know is a quick glimpse at their W-L-D and a look at the percentage of KO's.

David Bailey beat Craig Johnson who is a pretty good domestic prospect.

Baz Carey is durable and drew with highly rated Andrew Ferrans and hit stiffly enough to stop durable David Hinds.

Danny Thorpe stopped Commonwealth Games gold medalist Haider Ali, Junior ABA champion Stephen Mullin and also severely rocked former British Champion Andy Morris. He also scored good points wins over John Honney and got a draw with English champion Ashley Theophane. He's probably the most dangerous journeyman in the country along with Luke Simpkin.

Jackson Williams was a capable area level performer.

Lazlo Komjathi had mixed at the lower echelons of world class losing only a split decision to Lazlo Bogner who beat Michael Gomez. He also went the distance with Demarcus Corley.

Colin Bain was considered one of the better Scottish prospects till losing to Ricky Burns and holds a win over dangerous Martin Hardcastle.

Ryan Barrett would go on to beat former British champion Jamie Mckeever and fight for the British title against John Simpson and
he also boxed with success for england as an amateur.

Mohammed Medjadji had taken Kevin Mitchell six rounds.

And finally Steffy Bull was a former Central area champion who despite susceptability to body shots was good enough to beat Carl Greaves, Jimmy Beach and Carl Allen. Earliar in his career he had given the useful Dean Pithie a hell of a fight.

These guys aren't tomato cans and no hopers and you should be a bit more respectful when talking about fighters.

Yes there Ko percentage wasn't high but who can hit domestically at lightweight. Where are the punchers you want to match Khan with because with the exception of Gary Reid there aren't any major puncher in the UK.

You clearly know nothing about the lightweight division domesically so I hope I have educated you so you don't make a cock out of yourself for future threads.

Adios.
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Old 06-18-2007, 04:46 PM   #29
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yes but amstadam we know you hate khan and want him to lose but you dont have to go on about it all the time its getting tiresome.
Wait until he gets KOed.

I won't have anything to talk about actually, because all of the Khan apologists will be pretty silent.

Just like Fraudley Harrison apologists were.
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Not even the same thing. I can do other things that are similiar when you have given factors and noticeable trends with small bits and pieces of evidence that come together as a whole, but who CAN'T?

That's why this whole "there is no conrete evidence" is ridiculous, it's right there in your face that the kid, and others, can't take a shot if you just look for it.

So you think it's ridiculous how I have theorized Khan's chin being bad off of "nothing", but let me ask you this, how come I have called plenty of others in the same way? And guess what, the fans of the set hype jobs were always giving me the same type of feedback, "how do you KNOW".

Seems that I knew something, because there joker boy was KTFO or exposed in some other fashion that related to taking a shot....
Your thoery is based on the fact that he has been matched against non punchers and suffered one count as an amateur. There has been nothing as a pro to suggest he can't take a shot and only a brief moment when he was an amateur where he looked vulnerable- against a noted puncher.
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