Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread - Page 1104

teessider · 11-06-2009, 08:53 PM

never watched the valuev/holyfield as it was meant to be a stinker, was it froch/dirrell type of result/fight?

JonOli · 11-06-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by teessider

never watched the valuev/holyfield as it was meant to be a stinker, was it froch/dirrell type of result/fight?

It was possibly worse.

As far as I remember it, Holyfield did nothing bar just jogging on the spot (like a light work out down the gym), keeping a constant distance out of range, while Valuev tried to move toward him with the speed of a swamp creature stuck in sinking sand. At least Dirrell showed ome good footwork and slick defence.

widdy · 11-07-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by icemax

Charlie Z and Anglo would last approximately 8 seconds in Burnley (8 seconds being the average travel time from door to bar)

less than that,i have a bar in my front room

icemax · 11-07-2009, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by widdy

less than that,i have a bar in my front room

safc1990 · 11-07-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by teessider

Dilemma, Ive been invited to a 'do' tomorrow that obviously clashes with the fight but its a free meal and a free bar. Very hard to turn down.

Like you say, you can't turn it down, just catch the fight on the net/record it on Box Office if you're planning on ordering.

Flea Man · 11-07-2009, 06:26 AM

I have 61 Holyfield fights, including both Swiss and German versions of Evander vs Valuev. I've watched both versions all the way through and scored the fight 114-114 both times (I think) deffo scored a draw once, you can imagine how uninterested I was though. Still feel Haye will get clipped/clobbered at some point. He's getting stopped. I'm preparing myself for the worst, anything else will be a bonus.

icemax · 11-07-2009, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fleaman

He's getting stopped. I'm preparing myself for the worst, anything else will be a bonus.

I'm afraid that i'm firmly in your camp

Losfer_Words · 11-07-2009, 06:33 AM

John Ruiz has a worse chin than Haye and he managed a MD and SD losses in his two fights with Valuev. How many times has Valuev put someone on the canvas in the last 3 years? The bloke slaps as well. Valuev's getting schooled Pavlik style

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Flea Man · 11-07-2009, 06:45 AM

Ruiz has better punch resistance than Haye, and more stamina. If he were to fight Haye next It would be about the right time to 'do a Tua on him' methinks and would be a decent/easier defence for Haye and build hype for a Klitschko fight. Really hoping he can pull it off, will make the Heavyweight division that much better. Add Chambers and an in-shape Solis into the mix alongside the Klitschkos and Haye and we've got a Heavyweight division to be proud about again.

Flea Man · 11-07-2009, 06:47 AM

I think Hopkins would take Valuevs shots better than Haye will. When that was a rumour I actually felt safe in picking B-Hop. Man I wish Haye had stronger temples

GazOC · 11-07-2009, 06:49 AM

No way does Haye have a better chin than Ruiz.

Losfer_Words · 11-07-2009, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GazOC

No way does Haye have a better chin than Ruiz.

He does in my nuthugging book. Here's my evidence:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZ4ZlT63xU[/ame]

Sorry, I just needed an excuse to post it

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ishy · 11-07-2009, 07:32 AM

How many punchers has Valuev faced in his career?

Beeston Brawler · 11-07-2009, 07:35 AM

None - certainly that spring to mind anyway.

Chagaev couldn't put a dent in Matt Skelton, Ruiz hasn't stopped a meaningful opponent since..... God know's when.

Holyfield hasn't stopped a good opponent since post-jail Tyson - and was shot to shit anyway.

Haye is probably the biggest hitter he has faced.

Does anyone else feel Sky are over playing the Owen Beck fight?

Why not show some action from the Ruiz and Chagaev fights.......

ishy · 11-07-2009, 07:36 AM

He destroyed Beck who's not world class and that looks good to the casual. Ruiz and Chagaev made Nico look shit.

Haye will actually test Valuev's chin. He may not have been dropped but he hasn't faced anyone with the arsenal to drop him. We will find out tonight if he has a legit granite chin.

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teessider Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: the piss stained pants of Teesside Posts: 1,373 vCash: 75	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread never watched the valuev/holyfield as it was meant to be a stinker, was it froch/dirrell type of result/fight?
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Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,064 vCash: 75	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread I have 61 Holyfield fights, including both Swiss and German versions of Evander vs Valuev. I've watched both versions all the way through and scored the fight 114-114 both times (I think) deffo scored a draw once, you can imagine how uninterested I was though. Still feel Haye will get clipped/clobbered at some point. He's getting stopped. I'm preparing myself for the worst, anything else will be a bonus.
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Losfer_Words ★★★ 2 TONE EXPRESS ★★★ East Side Guru Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bristol, England Posts: 9,660 vCash: 1000	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread John Ruiz has a worse chin than Haye and he managed a MD and SD losses in his two fights with Valuev. How many times has Valuev put someone on the canvas in the last 3 years? The bloke slaps as well. Valuev's getting schooled Pavlik style.
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11-07-2009, 06:45 AM	#16554
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,064 vCash: 75	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread Ruiz has better punch resistance than Haye, and more stamina. If he were to fight Haye next It would be about the right time to 'do a Tua on him' methinks and would be a decent/easier defence for Haye and build hype for a Klitschko fight. Really hoping he can pull it off, will make the Heavyweight division that much better. Add Chambers and an in-shape Solis into the mix alongside the Klitschkos and Haye and we've got a Heavyweight division to be proud about again.
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11-07-2009, 06:47 AM	#16555
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,064 vCash: 75	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread I think Hopkins would take Valuevs shots better than Haye will. When that was a rumour I actually felt safe in picking B-Hop. Man I wish Haye had stronger temples
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11-07-2009, 06:49 AM	#16556
GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Spion Kop Posts: 44,504 vCash: 1000	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread No way does Haye have a better chin than Ruiz.
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11-07-2009, 07:32 AM	#16558
ishy P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 29,113 vCash: 500	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread How many punchers has Valuev faced in his career?
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11-07-2009, 07:35 AM	#16559
Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 35,250 vCash: 75	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread None - certainly that spring to mind anyway. Chagaev couldn't put a dent in Matt Skelton, Ruiz hasn't stopped a meaningful opponent since..... God know's when. Holyfield hasn't stopped a good opponent since post-jail Tyson - and was shot to shit anyway. Haye is probably the biggest hitter he has faced. Does anyone else feel Sky are over playing the Owen Beck fight? Why not show some action from the Ruiz and Chagaev fights.......
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11-07-2009, 07:36 AM	#16560
ishy P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 29,113 vCash: 500	Re: Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread He destroyed Beck who's not world class and that looks good to the casual. Ruiz and Chagaev made Nico look shit. Haye will actually test Valuev's chin. He may not have been dropped but he hasn't faced anyone with the arsenal to drop him. We will find out tonight if he has a legit granite chin.
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