Big Daddy Dan's Choi Thread

[TFFP]

Originally Posted by _Jono_

I've just lost 3 hours of my evening playing Civ V, where did it go!?

At first I was like, "What's all this turn bollocks?", then I was like,"Ahhh, it's at a high level with 'units'": then I was all like,"I'll research things to aid my defence, while building up a large army and not really concentrating on expansion" and then I went to war with this city thing, and then I won, then I looked at my watch and it wqsbthat gone 11.

How time flies when your the leader of an advanced race.

Computer games are a great way to not progress anywhere in life, without realizing. If I picked up one of those PC games that sucker you in I'd end up in a basement somewhere wanking all day and playing games, no doubt about it. Which is a really bad thing considering I've just bought a gaming laptop

[12downfor10]

Originally Posted by kosaros

I can't believe I've only just come across this video

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Wtf?

[Flea Man]

Doesn't work like that for boxing, please don't make me go over it again Pad

[kosaros]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAKgqgHyNzc[/ame]

[Trebus]

100 not out .... it's unheard of


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Ae0TfhK8M[/ame]

[charlstonbigspu]

I don't like the comparison of eras in football either due to advances in fitness,nutrition pitches and equipment I'd much prefer to see nowadays players cope in older times with all this and less protection.

On boxing all I would say is older boxers were fitter with my little knowledge on it.

[Flea Man]

I can't be arsed, the debate has been going on strongly in the last few days (again) funnily enough.

Very few boxers of today would be at the top of the division in past era's IMO. The fact that fighters still gas within 12 rounds nowadays shows it's not all that, plus 24 hour weigh in's encourage weight cutting, which leads to less training time for development of skills.

[SkillspayBills]

I'm not one for comparing era's myself but when i see some of fighters from back in day i do find myself wishing we could have fighters like them again. They just were natural born fighters. Lot of fighters nowadays are athlete's from different fields who fell upon sport. I think some of the conditioning work S&C coaches do is unfounded and based purely off philosophy or what they've heard. Seriously some of these guys shouldn't be anywhere near sport and fighters in general.

Look at Enzo's guy who had him carrying beer barrells...

The sports become far more tactical IMO, and gone backwards in terms of technique.

[12downfor10]

Downing

[Grant1]

#hodgsonforprimeminister

[icemax]

Originally Posted by Grant1

#hodgsonforprimeminister

You aren't really in a position to take the piss just yet, but I reckon that we should sack the twat....Bring back Sven

[GazOC]

Originally Posted by TheCitizens

I really, really beg to differ. Whilst skillsets and natural ability may not change conditioning and training does. You know more about old times so I concede my opinion is less valid than yours on terms of boxers from early 19's etc but my point on sport science is fact. Look at the 100metres how the record falls year on year.

A 12year old smashed a record and bettered it, now this record wad done by one of the greats in the sport yet a teen smashed it.

I think todays boxers are probably faster and stronger for the 2 or 3 fights they have in a year but I don't think they are better fighters than the guys that had 15-20 fights a year against varying opponents.

I know its dumbing down the argument a lot but I don't reckon being mechanically faster and stronger would make up for the technical experience of the guys who amassed hundreds of fights in their careers.

When I look at videos I can see the argument for the "crudeness" of fighters prior to around 1920 but after that and certainly by the 1930s and 1940s the top fighters were up with modern fighters IMHO allowing for the differing rules, gloves, distances etc.

[wrimc]

Originally Posted by GazOC

I think todays boxers are probably faster and stronger for the 2 or 3 fights they have in a year but I don't think they are better fighters than the guys that had 15-20 fights a year against varying opponents.

I know its dumbing down the argument a lot but I don't reckon being mechanically faster and stronger would make up for the technical experience of the guys who amassed hundreds of fights in their careers.

When I look at videos I can see the argument for the "crudeness" of fighters prior to around 1920 but after that and certainly by the 1930s and 1940s the top fighters were up with modern fighters IMHO allowing for the differing rules, gloves, distances etc.

I think you hit the nail on the head there Gaz.

Its not that sports science hasnt progressed its the way that athletes compete and train which has changed. They are now designed to fight 3 times a year and the cycle their training to be at a peak condition 2-3 times a year for a very short space of time.

Go back 50-60-70 years and fighters were fighting all year at a different pace. Against different styles, the game has changed. Technique therefore has evolved a fighter that fights hundreds of times will be vastly more experienced in the nuances than 20-30 fight career fighters of today. Maybe the strength and conditioning wasnt the same but the conditioning they did was perfecly adequate if not more than enough for the era and the way they fighting.

[GazOC]

I agree Pad, I think athletes have improved over the years and I'm also sure boxers have improved athletically. I'm just not sure this translates into being "better" at fighting than the guys in days gone by given the different attitudes, lessened activity levels and the decreased amount of boxers in the talent pool.

[Grant1]

Originally Posted by icemax

You aren't really in a position to take the piss just yet, but I reckon that we should sack the twat....Bring back Sven

I don't think I'll EVER be in the position to take the piss on the football front buddy

I did actually like Sven though, problem is, he's been worse than dreadful since leaving England.