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Old 09-07-2007, 05:26 PM   #1
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Default Reverse a loss from any fighter that would have the biggest impact on thier legacy

If there was just one loss that could have been corrected from any fighter in history, which loss (if reversed) would make the most impact on thier legacy.

Louis- Schmeling? Marciano?

Frazier- Foreman II? Ali III?

Holmes - Spinks I?
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:30 PM   #2
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Spinks/Tyson would of been unbelievable.

Past his prime Spinks reversing a devestating 90 something second loss against one of the greats.

Frazier/Foreman would of been huge too.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:33 PM   #3
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Tyson against Lewis.

That's the one I'd most want to change the outcome. Followed by Tyson-Holyfield 2.

Although he's still an ATG, I'd much rather have liked it if Duran lost a UD to Leonard in New Orleans rather than disgracefully quitting.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:47 PM   #4
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Spinks/Tyson would of been unbelievable.

Past his prime Spinks reversing a devestating 90 something second loss against one of the greats.

Frazier/Foreman would of been huge too.
Spinks-Tyson: Whoa!!!

IF Micheal Spinks had won his legacy IMO would have skyrocketed.

But Frazier Foreman II would have been better for Frazier in terms of legacy IMO. If Foreman never beats Frazier in Jamaica, Foreman wouldnt be looked at in the same manner. Frazier needed to lose to Foreman in order to give Foreman credibility. Because if Frazier beat him the first time; We'd all undermine his win.

My personal pick is Tyson vs. Lewis. Its the one fight in Tyson's career that would have erased a decade of transgressions.

Not to be a copy cat but Tyson Holyfield II is next. I'm probably the only person who watches that fight in foresight. I always reach the part right before the bite and hope for a different outcome each time.

Jones Tarver II: Even if you don't like Roy Jones Junior, its the one fate I would have never wished on him to suffer and early round 1 punch KO.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:51 PM   #5
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Holmes-Holyfield. If Larry beat Holyfield the way he beat Mercer, then not only would he have landed a peak Holyfield his first loss, but he would also become the new oldest heavyweight champion of the world at 42, almost 43 years old. That IMO would seal his place in the top 5.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:08 PM   #6
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Tunney-Dempsey I

Angott-Pep (see his record without that loss)

Leonard-Duran II, Hagler-Duran, and Hearns-Duran. (Duran dies of consumption in July of 1984. RIP. Robinson wouldn't be such a shoe-in.)

Fullmer-Paret (historians with wisdom will know why.)
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:09 PM   #7
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Holmes-Holyfield. If Larry beat Holyfield the way he beat Mercer, then not only would he have landed a peak Holyfield his first loss, but he would also become the new oldest heavyweight champion of the world at 42, almost 43 years old. That IMO would seal his place in the top 5.
IMO Holmes is already top 5 but that would really put him at #3
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:21 PM   #8
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If Joe Louis comes back and beats Rocky Marciano then there's no argument about the #1 slot for heayweights.

Looking the other way, then if Frazier loses to Ali in one then you have a serious impact on Frazier's overall status.
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Ali - Holmes

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Hagler - Leonard
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Tyson - Holyfield II
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Tyson - Holyfield II
Even more than Tyson Lewis?
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Even more than Tyson Lewis?
It's a hard call really. Even if he beat Lewis he still has that big gaping Holyfield hole in his career. At least if he beat Holy in the rematch his fans could say he was shot vs Lewis, as they do.
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Trinidad MD12 De La Hoya, 1999.
Mosley UD12 De La Hoya, 2003.

De La Hoya's career stalled after he was beaten against Trinidad. I thought it was a bad decision. He was never quite the same again. De La Hoya had some debatable decisions before, against Whitaker and Quartey. The following summer, Mosley handed him his second loss. He then took a break away from boxing recording an album, and for much of that year he ventured into other business interests. Mosley handed him another loss via a split decision in 2003. Other defeats followed against Hopkins and Mayweather.
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Trinidad MD12 De La Hoya, 1999.
Mosley SD12 De La Hoya, 2003.

De La Hoya's career stalled after he was beaten against Trinidad. I thought it was a bad decision. He was never quite the same again. De La Hoya had some debatable decisions before, against Whitaker and Quartey. The following summer, Mosley handed him his second loss. He then took a break away from boxing recording an album, and for much of that year he ventured into other business interests. Mosley handed him another loss via a split decision in 2003. Other defeats followed against Hopkins and Mayweather.
I actually thought the first Mosley fight affected Oscar's mind more than the Trinidad fight.

With the Tito fight, in Oscar's mind (and many others), Tito didn't win that fight. But the Mosley fight in 2000 was different. After some initial complaining, Oscar later accepted that he legimiately lost that fight.

Then that's when Oscar started to take long layoffs.

The rematch was actually a UD, all 3 judges had it 115-113 for Shane.
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