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Old 09-08-2007, 03:05 PM   #31
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Yust say that Mickey Walker had got the nod over Jack Sharkey as he verry nearly did.

You would have a former welterweight champion beating a future heavyweight champion.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:19 PM   #32
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IMO Holmes is already top 5 but that would really put him at #3
He is in my top 5 too, but in my mind that would shut any critics up about it.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:20 PM   #33
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Ali - Holmes

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Old 09-08-2007, 05:27 PM   #34
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Hamed vs Barrera

People would appreciate Hamed's ability a lot more.
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Old 09-08-2007, 05:54 PM   #35
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:03 PM   #36
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Holmes-Holyfield. If Larry beat Holyfield the way he beat Mercer, then not only would he have landed a peak Holyfield his first loss, but he would also become the new oldest heavyweight champion of the world at 42, almost 43 years old. That IMO would seal his place in the top 5.
It was never in the cards.

Besides, Holmes is a top six ATG without that.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:05 PM   #37
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Jones -Tarver (2).

If Jones wins and then retires, he's the greatest since Ali.
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Old 09-08-2007, 11:00 PM   #38
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Liston vs Ali 1, he would have had a long reign in my opinion.

Maybe Norton vs Ali 3
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Old 09-09-2007, 12:53 AM   #39
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That's the one I was waiting to mention. Suppose Foreman had gone out there and crushed Ali in a couple of rounds, just like he did to Frazier and Norton. Suddenly you have a guy who walked into the all-time strongest era of heavyweights, and destroyed everyone like they were nothing.

THAT Foreman doesn't get a mental complex about showing he can go the distance, the way Foreman did in real life, and probably just clobbers Jimmy Young.
Losing to Ali was the best thing that ever happened to big George.

Before the fight he was a sullen scowling boor.

In his second life he accomplished as much or more as in his first championship quest and became a much better human being.
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Old 09-09-2007, 02:56 AM   #40
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Toney's loss to Roy Jones... had Toney come into that fight in shape & given a good performance (maybe a SD loss or win) he would have a lot more respect from boxing fans who know the sport.

Mike McCallum's loss to Kalambay in 1988. If McCallum had won this fight he would have been considered one of the most dominant 154-160lbs fighters from 1984-1991. Because of this loss to Kalambay people don't think McCallum was one of the best (or IMO the best) fighters of that time (even though he was).
McCallum fought Kalambay again in early 1991 & won a close decision.
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Old 09-09-2007, 04:19 AM   #41
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Jeffries-Johnson

Mr. Jeff becomes the first man to regain the title and retires undefeated.
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:31 AM   #42
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:42 AM   #43
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Holmes-Holyfield. If Larry beat Holyfield the way he beat Mercer, then not only would he have landed a peak Holyfield his first loss, but he would also become the new oldest heavyweight champion of the world at 42, almost 43 years old. That IMO would seal his place in the top 5.
The loss to Holyfield certainly does'nt diminish Holmes, if anything as a Holmes fan I'd reverse his first loss to Spinks.
Holmes may have took him a little lightly, but had he won that fight he'd probably would have eclipsed Marciano's record and retired undefeated.....
.....had that happened, I doubt Holmes would have wanted to put himself in a situation to fight again and risk his undeafeted record with his legacy already sealed.

I reckon Holmes retiring undefeated may have merited a top 3 and maybe even #1 by a few!
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Old 09-09-2007, 06:48 AM   #44
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The biggest impacts would of been fighters like Paycheck, Zyglewicz or Dunn reversing a defeat to Louis, Frazier or Ali....

In the sprit of the thread Patterson beating Liston would of in the long run been huge to Patterson if he had won the rematch. I think though if he had won the first fight everyone would have just said Liston was a flash in the pan.

Schmeling beating Louis in their rematch would of had earth shattering consequences

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Old 09-09-2007, 07:35 AM   #45
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The loss to Holyfield certainly does'nt diminish Holmes, if anything as a Holmes fan I'd reverse his first loss to Spinks.
Holmes may have took him a little lightly, but had he won that fight he'd probably would have eclipsed Marciano's record and retired undefeated.....
.....had that happened, I doubt Holmes would have wanted to put himself in a situation to fight again and risk his undeafeted record with his legacy already sealed.

I reckon Holmes retiring undefeated may have merited a top 3 and maybe even #1 by a few!
Decent post, could you imagine the hype if Holmes did get the 50-0? Jeeeez LOL!
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