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Old 01-14-2013, 08:52 PM   #61
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As great as Whitaker is. It might not go the full 12 or 15.
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Old 01-14-2013, 09:19 PM   #62
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Tommy had trouble with swarmers, but not with boxers. Whitakers would be out at the end of Tommy's jab and lose a decision.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:10 AM   #63
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Whitaker is on of those rare once in five generation fighters. A truely all time great fighter. I dont see anybody having an easy fight with him at 147,even Robinson....But,hearns is just all wrong at 147. KO or wide,wide UD. Hearns coped very well with Benitez and leonard,and they were far bigger men and almost equally as skilled as pea. Pea doesnt have the one punch offense to turn it round like leonard either. If he tries to come forward i suspect he will be koed,if he boxes or runs he has no chance.
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Old 01-15-2013, 12:01 PM   #64
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Been mulling this one over and this fight is just all wrong for whittaker, i love pernell the guy was awesome but Hearns has nearly every advantage over him, his height, reach power and speed, ramrod job.

No shame though at all in that though , id pick hearns over most boxers in history at welter...if they cant hurt him they got no chance and i doubt pernell would have the pop... see it going similarly to the Benitez fight.
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Been mulling this one over and this fight is just all wrong for whittaker, i love pernell the guy was awesome but Hearns has nearly every advantage over him, his height, reach power and speed, ramrod job.

No shame though at all in that though , id pick hearns over most boxers in history at welter...if they cant hurt him they got no chance and i doubt pernell would have the pop... see it going similarly to the Benitez fight.
that is the problem with Hearns, if the fight is turned into boxing and counterpunching, and the fight is slowed down it was very hard to beat him with his jab and right hand. It is funny because the guy who usually started to brawl during fights more and went out of that style is Tommy himself. Once he started to land he started throwing more punches and leaving himself open, and that is how Leonard beat him the first time. And Hagler knew if Tommy saw and opening he would take it. Openings were irresistable to Tommy and that was his big flaw. As his biggest fan, he did not take a good enough punch to brawl in some of the fights he did. But with Whitaker it wouldn't matter. He would have the rhythm and size and speed and outbox him. I don't see him knocking out Whitaker
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Old 01-15-2013, 04:43 PM   #66
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While I think Hearns is the perfect fighter to counter act Whitaker's sublime defensive abilities, I doubt he would shut him out.

If Hearns simply boxed and moved a shut out wouldn't be out of the question but you know he would look for the KO and that would allow Whitaker to get close enough to land his shots.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:02 PM   #67
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Hearns is such an amazing Boxer. In terms of pure Boxing, he is so awesome! Possibly the best ever.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:43 AM   #68
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:34 PM   #69
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The love for hearns in this matchup and in general at WW is getting silly. People act like he was never beaten at that weight.. HE WAS. People act like he KO'd every meaningful fighter he faced at this weight.. HE DIDN'T. If Pea was KO'd by a prime Tito when he was welll past his best.. coc'd out.. and with a broken Jaw.. Hearns isn't getting him out of there. A prime Pea would be hit nearly as much as that version of Pea was. I honestly see Pea getting a bit into Hearns head actually... I think him making Tommy miss and clowing him in the process.. will piss tommy off and make him go for the KO. IN the process that will leave him open to counters.. and we all know how good pea is with countering. I'm not saying Pea wins... but people acting like Hearns will shut him out or KO him is kinda silly imo.
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Old 01-16-2013, 01:07 PM   #70
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that is the problem with Hearns, if the fight is turned into boxing and counterpunching, and the fight is slowed down it was very hard to beat him with his jab and right hand. It is funny because the guy who usually started to brawl during fights more and went out of that style is Tommy himself. Once he started to land he started throwing more punches and leaving himself open, and that is how Leonard beat him the first time. And Hagler knew if Tommy saw and opening he would take it. Openings were irresistable to Tommy and that was his big flaw. As his biggest fan, he did not take a good enough punch to brawl in some of the fights he did. But with Whitaker it wouldn't matter. He would have the rhythm and size and speed and outbox him. I don't see him knocking out Whitaker
Good point to be honest - i didnt quite look at it from that perspective, when Hearns opened up if he couldnt ko them he was very vulnerable like you mentioned,i still wouldnt bet against him at welter against anyone especially fighters that didnt have half decent dig no matter how good a boxer they were. i also agree with your point about tommy not knocking him out, whitaker was hard as nails , i remember him fighting trinidad unusually agressive and even on the KD's Whitaker didnt look hurt and Trinidad was a beastly puncher at welter.
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