toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA

Fullcontact5238 · 09-07-2007, 07:00 PM

for the toughest man ever in the middleweight div how does it go ?

Arminius · 09-07-2007, 08:49 PM

Greb wins. He fought half blind. He never trained just fought all the time. He is said to have fought Mickey Walker in the streets after they were finished with their historic boxing match.

red cobra · 09-08-2007, 05:06 PM

Carlos Monzon.

laxpdx · 09-15-2007, 02:56 PM

Tony Ayala was a definite shoo-in, until......What a shame. I definitely feel he would've been up there.

TBooze · 09-15-2007, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by laxpdx

Tony Ayala was a definite shoo-in, until......What a shame. I definitely feel he would've been up there.

No he would not, like Tyson, he had a flawed genius. Without the flaws he would not of had the genius; with the flaws he was always going to fail, and in Tyson's case, that is without hindsight, you could see it from 87 onwards ....

Maxmomer · 09-15-2007, 03:13 PM

Ketchel, while lacking traditional boxing skills, was probably one of the toughest mother fuckers to ever fight. That's what made him great, his toughness and ferocity, not to mention punching power.

brooklyn1550 · 09-15-2007, 04:36 PM

Harry Greb, although there are many others worthy of mention and of taking this title....Hagler for instance.

Mendoza · 09-15-2007, 04:52 PM

Don't forget Steele. He was tough.

My dinner with Conteh · 09-15-2007, 05:41 PM

Carmen Basilio.

zivic1941 · 09-16-2007, 11:34 AM

When in doubt, go with Greb.

Street Lethal · 09-16-2007, 01:45 PM

Hagler. The man was a tank. Never stopped. Never quit. Never knocked off his feet. He was hit right on the button by two of the biggest punchers in middleweight history and didn't go anywhere.

It's fitting that the greatest middleweight fighter ever was also the toughest son of a bitch ever.

robert ungurean · 09-16-2007, 03:49 PM

Zale deserves mentioning.

Dempsey1238 · 09-16-2007, 03:53 PM

Walker.

janitor · 09-16-2007, 04:28 PM

I would say either Walker or Greb.

If you asked either of them to fight a prime Mike Tyson they would probably agree to do it.

I will also mention Barbados Joe Walcott (not a midleweight). He wanted to fight Jeffries, Sharkey and Hart.

TBooze · 09-16-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

I will also mention Barbados Joe Walcott (not a midleweight). He wanted to fight Jeffries, Sharkey and Hart.

You suprise me!

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Arminius Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 151 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Greb wins. He fought half blind. He never trained just fought all the time. He is said to have fought Mickey Walker in the streets after they were finished with their historic boxing match.
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red cobra P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Sea of Tranquility Posts: 22,206 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Carlos Monzon.
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laxpdx Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,386 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Tony Ayala was a definite shoo-in, until......What a shame. I definitely feel he would've been up there.
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Maxmomer Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 5,634 vCash: 619	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Ketchel, while lacking traditional boxing skills, was probably one of the toughest mother fuckers to ever fight. That's what made him great, his toughness and ferocity, not to mention punching power.
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brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 12,401 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Harry Greb, although there are many others worthy of mention and of taking this title....Hagler for instance.
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Mendoza Dominating a decade East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 14,753 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Don't forget Steele. He was tough.
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My dinner with Conteh P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,600 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Carmen Basilio.
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zivic1941 Journeyman Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 91 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA When in doubt, go with Greb.
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Street Lethal Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 494 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Hagler. The man was a tank. Never stopped. Never quit. Never knocked off his feet. He was hit right on the button by two of the biggest punchers in middleweight history and didn't go anywhere. It's fitting that the greatest middleweight fighter ever was also the toughest son of a bitch ever.
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robert ungurean Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: liftin 3 kettlebells in pa.usa Posts: 2,172 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA Zale deserves mentioning.
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,058 vCash: 1000	Re: toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA I would say either Walker or Greb. If you asked either of them to fight a prime Mike Tyson they would probably agree to do it. I will also mention Barbados Joe Walcott (not a midleweight). He wanted to fight Jeffries, Sharkey and Hart.
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