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Old 02-26-2015, 08:02 AM   #1
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Default 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

A couple of washed-up crack-heads.

Imagine the super-fight between Bowe and Lewis was made, and these two over-the-hill relics were paired off on the undercard.

Both come in the same shape they did in real life for their '93 title shots.

Dokes at 244, Tucker at 235.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:07 AM   #2
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:10 AM   #3
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:31 AM   #4
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

Dokes was more washed up, so I'd definitely favor Tucker (prime4prime it would be a tough call).

Dokes' punch recistance was gone.

But Tucker never was a very hard hitter (despite his high KO%), and he couldn't stop (in his prime) glass-chined James Broad , nor he was able to stop small Orlin Norris or glass-jawed Bruce Seldon.

I'd pick Tucker for sure, but Dokes has some chances to last the distance.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:34 AM   #5
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

As mentioned, Tucker still had a little left in 1993, and at least tried against Lewis. As courageous as the Holyfield performance was, Dokes was broken after that fight, and it seems pretty clear now, he only fought Bowe for the money.
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:23 AM   #6
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

Tucker was never a 'washed up crack head' ! That's ill informed and unfair.
He was irresponsibly handled in a financial way by his father in the first stage of his career, which resulted in his million dollar payday with Tyson netting Tony a mere 28,000$....this soured him from the sport and he developed some bad habits/ but within 18 months he was back and put together a list of wins before aquiting himself well against Lennox.. by now Tony was 33 and had only lost to Tyson and Lewis , taking both the distance.
Hardly a crack head or washed up/ that was 1993.
His career declined after that but he was a classy fighter in a tough era.
With better management/a top trainer in his prime ,this guy could have achieved more.He lacked aggresion/confidence but achieved alot despite alot going against him.
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:47 AM   #7
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

Tucker via decision
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Old 02-26-2015, 03:47 PM   #8
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Tucker was never a 'washed up crack head' ! That's ill informed and unfair.
He was irresponsibly handled in a financial way by his father in the first stage of his career, which resulted in his million dollar payday with Tyson netting Tony a mere 28,000$....this soured him from the sport and he developed some bad habits/ but within 18 months he was back and put together a list of wins before aquiting himself well against Lennox.. by now Tony was 33 and had only lost to Tyson and Lewis , taking both the distance.
Hardly a crack head or washed up/ that was 1993.
His career declined after that but he was a classy fighter in a tough era.
With better management/a top trainer in his prime ,this guy could have achieved more.He lacked aggresion/confidence but achieved alot despite alot going against him.
I think he was washed-up.

But to be fair, I don't know if he used freebase cocaine.
He might just have been snorting a few lines of powder coke.
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:54 PM   #9
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

Tony by a decision, he had a little more in the tank than Michael.Prime vs Prime, Michael takes a strong decision.Shame that Tony wasn't developed during the early part of his career, he could've been special.
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Old 02-26-2015, 05:57 PM   #10
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

Dokes was a walking ghost when he got in the ring against Bowe. He was glassy-eyed and stumbling before the first punch.

Tucker was still a decent entity, certainly not prime but decent.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:05 AM   #11
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

I actually like to speculate on how they'd do against each other in their primes. Both were very good when at their best...Tucker could still fight good at that time he gave Lewis a good fight for his title. Dokes on the other hand I believe was still good enough to beat good journeymen and give some of the top heavyweights a decent go but Rid**** Bowe at that time was on top of his game and blasted out a very faded Michael Dokes. I think Lewis would've done pretty much the same..... But in his prime Dokes prime or even early in his comeback Dokes was a serious fight for any heavyweight just ask Evander Holyfield he gave him one of the fights of his life and that's saying something.
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Old 02-27-2015, 02:43 AM   #12
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

I concur with the general theme that Dokes was more washed-up than Tucker at this point. But Tucker was still badly, badly faded.
Also, perhaps Dokes was better than Tucker to begin with ?
Still, I'd probably expect Tucker to win this, based purely on how easily Dokes succumbed to Bowe's assault.
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Old 02-27-2015, 08:32 AM   #13
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Default Re: 1993 Tony Tucker v Michael Dokes

Its worth pointing out that Tony did win a version of the title beaten none other than Buster D....i think that gets forgotten.
Sadly Tony then had to fight Tyson straight away and the story goes that he had to fight him with a broken hand rather than pull out of the fight.
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Old 02-27-2015, 10:41 AM   #14
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Yes, Tucker's win over Douglas is a very good result.
I believe him when he says he had a bad hand against Tyson. Maybe he would have stopped the Tyson train if he'd been 100% but boxing's full of hard luck.
Losing on points to Tyson was no disgrace at the time and Tucker was in a good position right there to build himself up for a rematch a year or two down the line.
But Tucker's problem was the management chaos and his own lifestyle choices.
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A couple of washed-up crack-heads.

Imagine the super-fight between Bowe and Lewis was made, and these two over-the-hill relics were paired off on the undercard.

Both come in the same shape they did in real life for their '93 title shots.

Duokes at 244, Tucker at 235.
Tucker easy. He was much less faded in '93 than was Dokes. Tucker went the full 12 Rounds with Lennox Lewis in '93.
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