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Old 07-23-2009, 05:23 PM   #1
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Default Frazier ('70) vrs. Cooney ('81)

Any thoughts on this one?
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:16 AM   #2
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Frazier would be under siege for the first few rounds,as Cooney would be aiming to emulate George Foreman. However,Cooney could only do with one hand what Foreman could do with two. I can visualise Joe weathering the early storm and stopping Cooney late in the fight.
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:46 AM   #3
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I think joe stops him early. Cooney isn't going to absorb much before getting badly hurt and Frazier will finish the guy. I'd like to see the Cooney reaction to those body shots Frazier dug in there. And Gerry was wide open after throwing the left and Frazier used a lot of upper body movement on the outside to work his way in. I think Cooney swings and misses and Frazier counters with a sizzling hook. Once hurt, Cooney does not have the survival skills to hang in there. Superior corner for Smokin Joe too and they'd have Joe with the proper gameplan.
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Frazier was too strong but there is a possiblity that Gerry gets him 1st
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:54 AM   #5
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I like Joe to stop him within 7 or 8.
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Old 07-24-2009, 08:30 AM   #6
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Frazier KO within 3 ...
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:03 AM   #7
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Default Re: Frazier ('70) vrs. Cooney ('81)

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Frazier would be under siege for the first few rounds,as Cooney would be aiming to emulate George Foreman. However,Cooney could only do with one hand what Foreman could do with two. I can visualise Joe weathering the early storm and stopping Cooney late in the fight.

I think I'll go with this answer too.
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:39 AM   #8
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frazier gets a through a tuff first round to ko cooney around the 5th
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:57 AM   #9
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Frazier KO's Cooney in the 4th. I usually would give an analysis but he's simply on another level.
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Old 07-24-2009, 10:11 AM   #10
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First of all, George Foreman would have had much more trouble with the Joe Frazier of 1970, pre FOTC, as opposed to the fighter who defended his title three years later in Jamaica. Not saying Frazier beats Foreman, but to suggest George KO's a primer, fitter Frazier who actually doesn't underestimate his power and boxing ability, inside two rounds is not happening. Boxing logic and history says Foreman would always KO Joe Frazier, but I'd give this version of Joe a solid chance at surviving George's early power and stopping him later like he did to Mathis. The only difference, I don't think Foreman lasts as long as Mathis because George was not known for his stamina.

As for Cooney, I think he probably shows some good boxing ability against Frazier, winning the first few rounds and maybe trades some hooks like Quarry did. Everyone knows Frazier is a slow starter compared to most heavyweights and he's vulnerable in the early rounds. Compared to Ali though, anyone looks slow, so based on Joe's conditioning and how he treats this fight is how I'd determine the number of early rounds he'd lose. Cooney might have Joe down early like most people would suggest but Cooney is not stopping Frazier. I'd be surprised to see Cooney make it past round 7 against pre-FOTC Joe Frazier.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:05 PM   #11
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Frazier weathers some early thunder, get inside to Gerry, and stops him in six to seven rounds.
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Old 07-26-2009, 06:04 PM   #12
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First of all, George Foreman would have had much more trouble with the Joe Frazier of 1970, pre FOTC, as opposed to the fighter who defended his title three years later in Jamaica. Not saying Frazier beats Foreman, but to suggest George KO's a primer, fitter Frazier who actually doesn't underestimate his power and boxing ability, inside two rounds is not happening. Boxing logic and history says Foreman would always KO Joe Frazier, but I'd give this version of Joe a solid chance at surviving George's early power and stopping him later like he did to Mathis. The only difference, I don't think Foreman lasts as long as Mathis because George was not known for his stamina.

As for Cooney, I think he probably shows some good boxing ability against Frazier, winning the first few rounds and maybe trades some hooks like Quarry did. Everyone knows Frazier is a slow starter compared to most heavyweights and he's vulnerable in the early rounds. Compared to Ali though, anyone looks slow, so based on Joe's conditioning and how he treats this fight is how I'd determine the number of early rounds he'd lose. Cooney might have Joe down early like most people would suggest but Cooney is not stopping Frazier. I'd be surprised to see Cooney make it past round 7 against pre-FOTC Joe Frazier.


First off this is a Frazier vs Cooney not George Foreman vs Joe Frazier. George Foreman went 10 rounds a few times before he fought Frazier anyway. Frazier's body would never held up 10 rounds against Foreman period. Anyway Frazier would Ko Cooney in a few rounds
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:02 PM   #13
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FRAZIER EASY, Cooney has a tendency to drop his drop right. Frazier drops the monster left hook/ Lights out !!!!!
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:12 PM   #14
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Any thoughts on this one?
Frazier by murder.

After taking 3 rds to get warm, Joe is on his ass constantly, beating the shit out of him until Cooney drops in rd 9 battered & bruised.
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Old 07-26-2009, 08:43 PM   #15
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rd 9 ? im thiking inside of 5 . cooney hasnt witnessed shit like this b4.
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