Matt Hamill was robbed. - Page 4

hopkinsfan07 · 09-09-2007, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by trac209

and wtf is with that ***** joe rogan doing when ten seconds before he says hamill has the win and after the bs decision he says nothing about the robbery ,what a butt licking asswipe.

too true

bigG · 09-09-2007, 12:06 PM

bisping di mma and the ufc franchise a huge disservice after the result....a bit of humility and respect for hammil, who was clearly the better man on the night, wouldnt have gona amiss.....christ, bisping was even intimating to the crowd after the fight that he thought it was very close before the bs result was announced......exposed as a second tier fighter with a terrible attitude.....let him get in with randy and say go back to wrestling.....

Smith · 09-09-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Beebs

Absolute ****ing joke, cecil peoples continues his effort to ruin the sport.

And you know what? **** Bisping, no class, talking shit to a deaf guy....a pure wrestler who beat you up standing, absolute trash, **** you Bisping.

Hamill looked damn good and had better get more fights because he earned it out there.

**** that, im ****ing tired of hearing that classless cunt Hamill is deaf and so on, if he's ****ing man enough to get in the ring and talk trash himself, he is ****ing man enough to be dealt with trash his way.Why the **** should Bisping pitty-patter around the boy, because he's deaf?**** THAT!!!No ****ing sympathy, this is a blood sport, deal with it!

And whats with all of you saying Hamill outclassed Bisping, not from where i was standing! Yes Hamill was the bigger man, yes the first round was his, but did he do anything, really?No....

Now Michael took a while to get into it, but he was the one that was always throwing, and if any of you doubt his ability to get out of bad situations you need your eyes examined.Matt could not keep him in any sort of control, and the two punches the limited Matt did land did not flinch Michael at all, so why the **** the outcrie for a Matt win. I personally saw it as a draw, but could understand why the win was given to Michael for his work ethic.

Bisping needs to go down to 185 though, he's far too small.

BewareofDawg · 09-09-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Burundanga

and Michael "The Cunt" Bisping showed that he is a tool with no class.

I couldn't say it better myself. There is absolutely no way Bisping won either 1 of the first 2. I lost a lot of respect for bisping after the way he acted, and gained a lot for Hammill. Hammill took that bullshit decision with a lot of class.

fightercraig · 09-09-2007, 12:21 PM

I must say I was surprised at the decision, I myself thought Hamill won although it was close. Perhaps a draw would have been fairer.

What did shock me though was Bisping's attitude after the fight. Hamill clearly gave him what must be one of the closest fights of his career, and to not even acknowledge that and wave a hand at him and say "back to wrestling" was incredibly bad sportsmanship.

I think its bad for Bisping and the sport, especially in light of the bad press and the UFC's efforts to promote the fighters as sportsmanlike.

This arguement will probably turn into a UK v American thing, and I can understand everyone trying to stand up for a British fighter but I've lost a lot of respect for Bisping and so have many people, which I think is sad.

I know they don't like each other and Bisping was under pressure to perform for a home crowd, also fired up right after the fight, but even he must have realised how close it was and how much Hamill had improved.

I think he lost a great opportunitty for himself and MMA in general. If he'd said something like "It was a close one, Matt's really improved, respect to the guy, etc" I think it would be a different story today. He should have been Randy Couture instead of Tank Abbott.

I'm just dis-appointed.

amhlilhaus · 09-09-2007, 12:28 PM

close decisions are a way of life, don't want close decisions then finish your man, and hamill didn't do enough to dominate to the point where he won over the crowd which made it easier for the judges to screw him. it's just the way it is, thought bisping was a **** but that's up to him.

hamill needs plenty of work, his dropping his hands, his shoots were sloppy later in the fight and the oh so important submission game, along with more gas and he could be really dangerous.

Burundanga · 09-09-2007, 01:46 PM

Bisping vs Tito please. Would be logical move for the UFC matchmaker. Bisping accused Tito of playing favorites with Hamill on the TUF show.

Maybe Matt erroneously let Bisping up but you can rest assured that Tito would elbow him to into oblivion.

BewareofDawg · 09-09-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Burundanga

Bisping vs Tito please. Would be logical move for the UFC matchmaker. Bisping accused Tito of playing favorites with Hamill on the TUF show.

Maybe Matt erroneously let Bisping up but you can rest assured that Tito would elbow him to into oblivion.

Tito isn't what he used to be.....but he would destroy Bisping

And I would love to watch it, and then listen to him talk shit to him afterwards

AJAX · 09-09-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BewareofDawg

Tito isn't what he used to be.....but he would destroy Bisping

And I would love to watch it, and then listen to him talk shit to him afterwards

just like you said CC would beat CK but I noticed you havn't said much on those subjects......it's easy to spot off isn't it

but not back it up

ufoalf · 09-09-2007, 02:23 PM

Hamill all the way. He took him down almost at will and out gunned him standing up.

BewareofDawg · 09-09-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AJAX

just like you said CC would beat CK but I noticed you havn't said much on those subjects......it's easy to spot off isn't it

but not back it up

So what? I got that one wrong......WHO DIDN'T PICK CRO COP???? All logic and reason led me to believe Cro would win. First of all, Kongo didn't look that good in his last outing, and I thought Cro Cop would return to previous form, and actually come out with some ****ing fire in his eyes. But he didn't.

Whats your problem? Do you think Bisping would beat Ortiz?

Or maybe you actually think he won last night?

You think it was appropriate the way he acted after the fight? He acted like an ass hole, and fought like a B-level fighter........AT BEST

achillesthegreat · 09-09-2007, 03:11 PM

Hamil won the first and the next two were close. I'll edge it to Bisping 2-1. Hamil hurt him in the first and was going nuts but in the next two Bisping boxed and looked to score none stop. On occassion when Hamil did take him down nothing happened. I give Bisping credit for avoiding so many takedowns and getting up quite quickly once taken down. Afterall Hamill was supposed to be some really good wrestler.

eze · 09-09-2007, 03:23 PM

It's not that he talked shit to a deaf guy but how he did it.

He said "Well, I guess its time to go back to wrestling" and he jetted out of there before someone could tell Hamill what was said.

And another thing, out of respect for Hamill since his voice is quiet they should have someone speak for him if hes not able to be understood (not because hes deaf but because he speaks so low).

achillesthegreat · 09-09-2007, 03:36 PM

I think they put a lot of pressure on Hamill to speak. It looked like he was looking around for a speaker. He was respectful and thankfully he talking was ok. He should be ok by himself but he spoke a little low.

It is great to see him in the sport.

GazOC · 09-09-2007, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eze

It's not that he talked shit to a deaf guy but how he did it.

He said "Well, I guess its time to go back to wrestling" and he jetted out of there before someone could tell Hamill what was said.

yep, that pissed me off as well!

09-09-2007, 12:06 PM	#47
bigG Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: wherever my mind takes me Posts: 789 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. bisping di mma and the ufc franchise a huge disservice after the result....a bit of humility and respect for hammil, who was clearly the better man on the night, wouldnt have gona amiss.....christ, bisping was even intimating to the crowd after the fight that he thought it was very close before the bs result was announced......exposed as a second tier fighter with a terrible attitude.....let him get in with randy and say go back to wrestling.....
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09-09-2007, 12:21 PM	#50
fightercraig newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. I must say I was surprised at the decision, I myself thought Hamill won although it was close. Perhaps a draw would have been fairer. What did shock me though was Bisping's attitude after the fight. Hamill clearly gave him what must be one of the closest fights of his career, and to not even acknowledge that and wave a hand at him and say "back to wrestling" was incredibly bad sportsmanship. I think its bad for Bisping and the sport, especially in light of the bad press and the UFC's efforts to promote the fighters as sportsmanlike. This arguement will probably turn into a UK v American thing, and I can understand everyone trying to stand up for a British fighter but I've lost a lot of respect for Bisping and so have many people, which I think is sad. I know they don't like each other and Bisping was under pressure to perform for a home crowd, also fired up right after the fight, but even he must have realised how close it was and how much Hamill had improved. I think he lost a great opportunitty for himself and MMA in general. If he'd said something like "It was a close one, Matt's really improved, respect to the guy, etc" I think it would be a different story today. He should have been Randy Couture instead of Tank Abbott. I'm just dis-appointed.
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09-09-2007, 12:28 PM	#51
amhlilhaus Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 872 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. close decisions are a way of life, don't want close decisions then finish your man, and hamill didn't do enough to dominate to the point where he won over the crowd which made it easier for the judges to screw him. it's just the way it is, thought bisping was a **** but that's up to him. hamill needs plenty of work, his dropping his hands, his shoots were sloppy later in the fight and the oh so important submission game, along with more gas and he could be really dangerous.
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09-09-2007, 01:46 PM	#52
Burundanga Renaissance Man ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 20,000 BC Posts: 247 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. Bisping vs Tito please. Would be logical move for the UFC matchmaker. Bisping accused Tito of playing favorites with Hamill on the TUF show. Maybe Matt erroneously let Bisping up but you can rest assured that Tito would elbow him to into oblivion.
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09-09-2007, 02:23 PM	#55
ufoalf Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,441 vCash: 1550	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. Hamill all the way. He took him down almost at will and out gunned him standing up.
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09-09-2007, 03:11 PM	#57
achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,047 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. Hamil won the first and the next two were close. I'll edge it to Bisping 2-1. Hamil hurt him in the first and was going nuts but in the next two Bisping boxed and looked to score none stop. On occassion when Hamil did take him down nothing happened. I give Bisping credit for avoiding so many takedowns and getting up quite quickly once taken down. Afterall Hamill was supposed to be some really good wrestler.
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09-09-2007, 03:23 PM	#58
eze Everybody Know Me East Side VIP Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: It's Like I'm a Movie Star Posts: 22,887 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. It's not that he talked shit to a deaf guy but how he did it. He said "Well, I guess its time to go back to wrestling" and he jetted out of there before someone could tell Hamill what was said. And another thing, out of respect for Hamill since his voice is quiet they should have someone speak for him if hes not able to be understood (not because hes deaf but because he speaks so low).
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09-09-2007, 03:36 PM	#59
achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,047 vCash: 1000	Re: Matt Hamill was robbed. I think they put a lot of pressure on Hamill to speak. It looked like he was looking around for a speaker. He was respectful and thankfully he talking was ok. He should be ok by himself but he spoke a little low. It is great to see him in the sport.
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