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Old 09-09-2007, 05:07 PM   #46
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It's guy code ! Like not kicking in the nuts
So, when you are about to fight someone, do you specify no armbars? How about choke holds? Kicks?

If someone is dumb enough to get in a streetfight to start with, I have no sympathy for them if their opponent doesn't ascribe to all these so called "unwritten rules."
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:21 PM   #47
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Stop going off topic . There are no rules . I said real men punch you in the face . They don't start throwing you on the ground looking for arm bars . I said if your going to do that then why don't I just hit you with hammer . It's not ultimate fighting in the real world . You throw some punches and it's over . If you really want to hurt someone like that why not do it right and hit him over the head with a brick or have 4 friends kick the guys head in ? Whats the diffrence between the 2 ? Where's the line ?
Well, like I said, there really isn't a line since it's an illegal activity. No one in a streetfight is under any obligation to follow any particular rules.

And you have defined the rules of streetfight to what suits you. I figure that if an armbar can end a fight, then by all means go for it. It's a tactical move that isn't unfair, in my opinion.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:23 PM   #48
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It's guy code ! Like not kicking in the nuts
There is no code in street fighting. If you think there is, you're bound to get knocked the **** out the first time you fight anyone worth a damn. There aren't many things worth fighting for in general outside of combat sports, but if you're going to, not being the guy who got ****ed up is all that matters.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:23 PM   #49
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What if what suits them best is putting a bullet in you ? Should they do that too ?
So, just to be clear, you're saying that in a streetfight a guy should stick to throwing punches only? If he goes beyond that, its akin to shooting a guy with a guy.
That's a rather silly analogy.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:27 PM   #50
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Well, like I said, there really isn't a line since it's an illegal activity. No one in a streetfight is under any obligation to follow any particular rules.

And you have defined the rules of streetfight to what suits you. I figure that if an armbar can end a fight, then by all means go for it. It's a tactical move that isn't unfair, in my opinion.
Exactly.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:32 PM   #51
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What you don't think you'll go to jail for breaking someones arm in an arm bar ?
And you can also go to jail for punching a guy in the face. Hec, you could cause him serious damage that goes beyond anything an armbar could do.

The bottom line is that if you get into a streetfight, don't assume there is a unwritten honor that must be followed.
It's an illegal activity, and you better be prepared for anything.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:34 PM   #52
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Yes , That's pretty much the idea
You seem to be contradicting yourself. At one point you say that the only honorable thing to do in a streetfight is to throw punches, and anything else is wrong and dishonorable.
Yet, you seem to agree now that using an armbar is OK.

Can you clarify your position?
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:34 PM   #53
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UFC is a very hard sports, as competetive as boxing cause your skills have to be very good to compete in there, but it is not as exciting as boxing, never will be, and plus a sport with a single owner will be never be as big as its potential really is but again, it will never be as big as boxing, the comparison is stupid by the way,
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:39 PM   #54
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Anyone who thinks a street fight can end with a punch in the face suffers from the same mentality of a boxer who thinks they could knock everybody out ..And anyone who thinks that MMA is nothing more than guys hugging each other are the one who are 2 steps closer to leaving the closet !
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:43 PM   #55
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No , I agreed that I was defining the rules in my favor . Armbars are for fags ! Just my opinion
Well, I define the rules for streetfighting in my favour as well. I just don't get into them!
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:47 PM   #56
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Not really I saw allot of ass and ball grabbing in the little bit of the fights that I saw last night . Many people notice that because it's true !
Ass and ball grabbing?!? Are you sure it's UFC your watching?
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Stop going off topic . There are no rules . I said real men punch you in the face . They don't start throwing you on the ground looking for arm bars . I said if your going to do that then why don't I just hit you with hammer . It's not ultimate fighting in the real world . You throw some punches and it's over . If you really want to hurt someone like that why not do it right and hit him over the head with a brick or have 4 friends kick the guys head in ? Whats the diffrence between the 2 ? Where's the line ?
It's not over that fast if both are good. Best fight I ever saw I wasn't a part of, but it was two guys who were dead tough going at it for what felt like ten minutes, but was probably more like three to five. There were a lot of punches, kicks, slams... everything in the vicinity got smashed including a thick hardwood table.... It eventually ended when the one guy went down and got booted in the face multiple times by the other guy who was leaning against the wall, breathing heavy. Steeltoe boots in the face. The tendrils or whatever from the guy's nose were hanging out.

All in all, there were no rules, and it wasn't over after a few punches at all. If that's how you think it goes, you haven't seen a real fight.
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:52 PM   #58
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Anyone who thinks a street fight can end with a punch in the face suffers from the same mentality of a boxer who thinks they could knock everybody out
A street fight CAN end with a punch to the face.
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Not really I saw allot of ass and ball grabbing in the little bit of the fights that I saw last night . Many people notice that because it's true !
Most gay people notice gay things in a competitive sport !!


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A street fight CAN end with a punch to the face.
Your right but most street fights end on the ground if it didn't finish w/that punch to the face !
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Old 09-09-2007, 05:56 PM   #60
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Most gay people notice gay things in a competitive sport !!
I'm starting to think this might be the case. In all my years of watching boxing, I've never seen clinches as homoeroctically charged man hugs!

I suppose someone could see them that way if they really wanted to. If they do, then they're obviously watching the sport for very different reasons than the rest of us.

But, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that very few boxers (or MMA fighters) find anything ***ual or erotic about the close contact.

It's call context people!
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