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Old 07-27-2009, 11:25 AM   #46
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Default Re: A Clear Cut Explanation On Why Floyd "DOES" Deserve The Lions Share Against Pacma

you wait for the results of JMM/floyd sales result, you'll realize that floyd was not the cash cow that he himself is proclaiming. that's he doesn't deserve lion share. that 50/50 is the most that he deserve
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:26 AM   #47
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you wait for the results of JMM/floyd sales result, you'll realize that floyd was not the cash cow that he himself is proclaiming. that's he doesn't deserve lion share. that 50/50 is the most that he deserve
I could be wrong.... time will tell... but if floyd breaks 1 million against jmm alot of people are going to be pissed off.. including arum
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:27 AM   #48
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The title of this thread should be: A Clear CUTE Explanation of Why Floyd does deserve the Lion's Share....."
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:27 AM   #49
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but how can he not be on top?

who has surpassed him?

floyd beat hatton & odlh

pacman JUST did that
cotto... no
shane.... no
margarito ... no
pw... no
berto.... no
jmm..... no


if pacman beats cotto then we might be able to have some discussion about floyd being surpassed.... but until then nobody has surpassed floyd..

especially pacman... its not about where he started thats irrelevant... its about what he is doing now... and what he is doing now is still not more than what floyd already did 2 years ago

By your logic, Rocky Marciano is still the greatest HW champ till this day.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:29 AM   #50
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im pretty positive you didn't read any of what i wrote, I even warned people like you to shut up and read the fucking post before you comment.

I hear what your saying However What Pacquiao has done in contrast to what Floyd has done with their last two opponents I say Manny has earned the bigger share he fought like a fighter who came to win, Floyd looked un sure of himself in spots in both fights.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:29 AM   #51
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I could be wrong.... time will tell... but if floyd breaks 1 million against jmm alot of people are going to be pissed off.. including arum
LOL! They need to spice up the undercards to make is saleable. Otherwise, on its own, it would be a flop.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:31 AM   #52
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By your logic, Rocky Marciano is still the greatest HW champ till this day.
Legacy wise I agree, as far as being able to kick everyone's ass I would say Mike owned that department
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:33 AM   #53
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By your logic, Rocky Marciano is still the greatest HW champ till this day.
he is dead...... and honestly....

if tyson came back to fight wlad... it would outsell anyone in the hw division fighting wlad cept for haye

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I hear what your saying However What Pacquiao has done in contrast to what Floyd has done with their last two opponents I say Manny has earned the bigger share he fought like a fighter who came to win, Floyd looked un sure of himself in spots in both fights.
yeah but pacman STILL hasnt surpassed floyd... regardless of how floyd looked he still won... fighting technique doesnt have anything to do with it in my eyes... if cotto wants more than floyd he needs to beat cotto... i guess thats why arum may have took the fight... he could give a fuck about cotto as far as his future

edit: and really what has pacman done? you cant use that weight shit as leverage really.. its cool as far as accomplisments go but i cant see how it can be used as leverage... its really worthless because pacman just beat floyd left overs... even if he did it more convincing those guys were still his left overs

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LOL! They need to spice up the undercards to make is saleable. Otherwise, on its own, it would be a flop.
you think the majority of the people who buy these fights give a fuck about the undercards?
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:34 AM   #54
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LMAO!.... finally my first honest poster...

Ill do it first since you attempted to read it.

- Floyd knows arum is a bigger road block to this fight than pacman is, because arum will be greedy

- Floyd would be doing pacman a favor by fighting him

- Floyd is still the highest demanded fighter in the sport retired or not

- Pacman technically still hasnt really surpassed floyd.

- Floyd honestly doesnt need pac 1 bit.


those are in order of how i typed it so if you want to read about a particular point you can check it out.

Atleast, you made your silly, childish points summarized. Better than reading your lengthy, messy first post, but it didn't make your points correct.

Mayweather un-retired because of Pacquaio. He saw epic money in him, and that's it.

The purse should be 50/50. That is all what we need to be said about this potential match-up.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:36 AM   #55
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so then why did pacman not outsell floyd twice?

and his #'s against odlh SHITTTTTTEEDDD on pacmans #'s against dlh
You have to consider that Floyd fought during pre-recession times when Americans had extra money to buy PPVs. No basis of comparison. The fact is it is written all over that Floyd is not the cash cow. He needs to ride on the back of the cash calves like Hatton and dela Hoya to sell his fights. How much did he do against Baldomir, btw?
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:36 AM   #56
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but how can he not be on top?

who has surpassed him?

floyd beat hatton & odlh

pacman JUST did that
cotto... no
shane.... no
margarito ... no
pw... no
berto.... no
jmm..... no


if pacman beats cotto then we might be able to have some discussion about floyd being surpassed.... but until then nobody has surpassed floyd..

especially pacman... its not about where he started thats irrelevant... its about what he is doing now... and what he is doing now is still not more than what floyd already did 2 years ago
Yeah.. floyd beat DHL (split decision) Hatton (10th round KO)
BUT... pac beat them earlier and in more impressive fashion DHL (TKO round 8?) Hatton (2nd round KO)

Didn't pac surpassed him?
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he is dead...... and honestly....

if tyson came back to fight wlad... it would outsell anyone in the hw division fighting wlad cept for haye


yeah but pacman STILL hasnt surpassed floyd... regardless of how floyd looked he still won... fighting technique doesnt have anything to do with it in my eyes... if cotto wants more than floyd he needs to beat cotto... i guess thats why arum may have took the fight... he could give a fuck about cotto as far as his future

edit: and really what has pacman done? you cant use that weight shit as leverage really.. its cool as far as accomplisments go but i cant see how it can be used as leverage... its really worthless because pacman just beat floyd left overs... even if he did it more convincing those guys were still his left overs



you think the majority of the people who buy these fights give a fuck about the undercards?
Yes. That is the number 1 complaint from fans who purchase ppv's.
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Old 07-27-2009, 11:37 AM   #58
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Atleast, you made your silly, childish points summarized. Better than reading your lengthy, messy first post, but it didn't make your points correct.

Mayweather un-retired because of Pacquaio. He saw epic money in him, and that's it.

The purse should be 50/50. That is all what we need to be said about this potential match-up.
we will see... floyd might not go directly at pacman... could fight shane after jmm for all we know.... shane will gladly take a shittier contract to get the fight.... thats why pacman continues to say


"pacman obviously doesnt want the fight... he hasnt called me out.. he knows where im at"
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yeah but pacman STILL hasnt surpassed floyd... regardless of how floyd looked he still won... fighting technique doesnt have anything to do with it in my eyes... if cotto wants more than floyd he needs to beat cotto... i guess thats why arum may have took the fight... he could give a fuck about cotto as far as his future


Walk With me I really think you either need to stop using the drugs that make you say shit like this or give up on this sport, if you think Manny Pacquiao has not surpassed Floyd your insane.

He has surpassed Floyd and that is Floyds fault P4P is your skills and with both Common opponents Manny showed the skills of a cold killer who came to murder you, Floyd showed his but in a different Form, his skills indicate that he is happy to keep it a scratch and sniff kind of fight.

Sorry but the explosivness of Manny Pacquiao must and should be and has been rewarded
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You have to consider that Floyd fought during pre-recession times when Americans had extra money to buy PPVs. No basis of comparison.
it wasnt pre recession.... people were still bitching about the recession when them fights happened... especially the hatton fight... baldomir has nothing to do with this... how much did pacman sell against diaz... both are non points

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Yeah.. floyd beat DHL (split decision) Hatton (10th round KO)
BUT... pac beat them earlier and in more impressive fashion DHL (TKO round 8?) Hatton (2nd round KO)

Didn't pac supassed him?
how? a win is a win..... its not even about the nature of the wins as long as the wins aren't
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Yes. That is the number 1 complaint from fans who purchase ppv's.
yo what the fuck are you talking about? you stay on the forums too much
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