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Old 07-28-2009, 07:30 AM   #1
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Default Marvin Hagler v Vito Antuofermo 1

Still baffled as to how Hagler only got a draw out of this one. Granted he took his foot off the gas in the latter stages and Vito came on strong,yet surely Marvin had built up a comfortable points cushion to take it.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:34 AM   #2
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Won it by about two rounds I think. Good fight, might watch it later.
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:44 PM   #3
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I had it if I can remember something like 10 - 4 & 1 even for Hagler.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:16 PM   #4
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I had it 8-7 for Hagler, so I didn't have a real problem with the draw decision. The writer for the Associated Press scored it 143-142 for Antuofermo, so the controversy continues. I wonder how the magazines scored it at the time, like Ring or Boxing Illustrated?

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Old 07-28-2009, 01:39 PM   #5
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Antoufermo/Hagler

Round 1: 9-10
Round 2: 9-10
Round 3: 9-10
Round 4: 9-10
Round 5: 9-10
Round 6: 10-10
Round 7: 10-9
Round 8: 10-9
Round 9: 10-10
Round 10: 9-10
Round 11: 9-10
Round 12: 9-10
Round 13: 10-9
Round 14: 10-9
Round 15: 10-9

142-145 Hagler
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:50 PM   #6
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im pretty sure i had it fairly clear for Hagler
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:09 PM   #7
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Default Re: Marvin Hagler v Vito Antuofermo 1

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Antoufermo/Hagler

Round 1: 9-10
Round 2: 9-10
Round 3: 9-10
Round 4: 9-10
Round 5: 9-10
Round 6: 10-10
Round 7: 10-9
Round 8: 10-9
Round 9: 10-10
Round 10: 9-10
Round 11: 9-10
Round 12: 9-10
Round 13: 10-9
Round 14: 10-9
Round 15: 10-9

142-145 Hagler
Sounds about right, though I don't have the RBR. Close but clear for Hagler in my book.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:10 PM   #8
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Hagler was too cautious late on, and back then (rightly IMO) any benefit of the doubt went to the champion.

Hagler could bitch, but the draw (for the time) was a fair result.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:18 PM   #9
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Very poor verdict. Hagler was cautious because he thought he had the fight in the bag. Maybe he shouldn't have been, but his margin should have been wide enough to win the title. Judges can't just cross their scoring out from the earlier rounds because late on in the fight if they think "hmm, maybe he hasn't done enough to take the title away". Even if they thought that in the final few rounds, their cards should have still had Marvin in a big enough lead when he did fight like he was 'taking' the title.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:25 PM   #10
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To me Hagler just didn't act like he wanted the Championship.......where Vito, as limited as he was in skill, very much wanted to continue to be champion.

I was disappointed that Hagler didn't win, but I was not surprised at the result back when I saw it live on TV.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:33 PM   #11
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I thought a draw was fair. Anyone who had it 10-4-1 is ****ing nuts.
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Old 07-28-2009, 05:34 PM   #12
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To me Hagler just didn't act like he wanted the Championship.......where Vito, as limited as he was in skill, very much wanted to continue to be champion.

I was disappointed that Hagler didn't win, but I was not surprised at the result back when I saw it live on TV.
That was the way I saw it. He would go on to have a Marvelous career, but sometimes Hagler (and the Petronelli's) failed to grab the initiative enough in important fights, and that led to some poor performances (for someone so good) on the resume.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:09 PM   #13
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I had Hagler by maybe two/three rounds.

Vito had great conditioning/workrate and Marvin took his foot off the gas and it cost him. Vito did not give Marvin any room to move and fought well in the trenches, Marvin did not use the angles in this bout that he could/should of and the rematch shows this, athough Marvin looked alot hungryer after this bout and maybe we are all better off from the draw that he received.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:33 PM   #14
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I thought a draw was fair. Anyone who had it 10-4-1 is ****ing nuts.
Watch it again as I did last year when I scored it.Even when Hagler boxed more he still outlanded Vito 4 to 1.This fight was not even close!
So what if Vito became more aggressive and Hagler boxed more,he was still beating the crap out of Vito.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:21 PM   #15
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Watch it again as I did last year when I scored it.Even when Hagler boxed more he still outlanded Vito 4 to 1.This fight was not even close!
So what if Vito became more aggressive and Hagler boxed more,he was still beating the crap out of Vito.
Yep it's not nuts to have it 10-4-1 for Hagler. I think the people who say it was a draw are blind.
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