Looking to expand my knowledge

GPater11093 · 07-28-2009, 04:14 PM

i was flicking through a top 200 fighters book and i realised although i had heard of all o fthem there was some i had seen very little or no footage off

so i was wondering if anyone could help me out getting footage of some of the guys. Most of them i have 3 or 4 fights of theres but was looking to see more

heres the guys im looking for

Yuri Arbachakov
Lou Ambers
Max Baer
Abe Attel (not sure if footage exists though)
Hogan Bassey
Nino Benvenuti
Riddick bowe
Joe Brown
Orlando Canizales
Jimmy Carruthers
Marcel cerdan
Jeff Chandler
Kid Chocolate
Billy Conn
Pipini Cuevas
Terry Downes
Johnny Dundee
Gabriel Elorde
Alfredo Escalara
Sixto escobar
Luis Estaba
Johnny Famechon
Victor Galindez
Joey Giardello
Buea Jack
Eder Jofre
Pone Kingpetch
Jose Legra
Gus Lesinvinch
Duillio Loi
Jock McAvoy
Saol mambay
Freddie Mills
Brian Mitchell
Manuel Ortiz
Lazlo papp
Jackie Paterson
Eusebio Pedroza
Pascual Perez
Lupe Pintor
Sandy saddler
Vicente Saldivar
Samuel Sarrano
Battling Siki
Ike Willaims
Pongsalak Wongjongkam
Hilario Zapata
Carlos Zarate

IntentionalButt · 07-28-2009, 04:16 PM

Bowe is in a top 200 AT fighters list?

Smith · 07-28-2009, 04:17 PM

Jofre and Loi are absolute essentials to learn more about. Make them the priorities. Loi's style is superb to watch.

GPater11093 · 07-28-2009, 04:19 PM

cheers Smith

i still got Monzon DVDs in my house for you

IB it was just a selection of 200 top boxers

Smith · 07-28-2009, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

cheers Smith

i still got Monzon DVDs in my house for you

IB it was just a selection of 200 top boxers

I'm up in aberdeen for a week in mid august, i'll let you know, cheers

GPater11093 · 07-28-2009, 04:29 PM

ok Smith. theres 3 or 4 DVds

Sweet Pea · 07-28-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smith

Jofre and Loi are absolute essentials to learn more about. Make them the priorities. Loi's style is superb to watch.

There's hardly any footage of him at all, and what's available to view is far different than what's been written about him. Hell, he doesn't even fight southpaw in the footage available. Not that it means much, more than likely he was either having off nights and/or applying a simple change of pace to his normal style. Anyone who gets the better of a prime Carlos Ortiz in a series is obviously a great fighter.

Sweet Pea · 07-28-2009, 04:41 PM

Come to think of it, not even Jofre has much footage. Just his fights with Harada and Medel if I'm not mistaken. At least of what is readily available. I'm sure there's more out there (possibly of both he and Loi), but it would take some undigging to acquire.

GPater11093 · 07-28-2009, 04:45 PM

yeh it would Sweet Pea. I just wrote them down as i hadnt seen too much of them just the Harada fight of Jofres.

stevebhoy87 · 07-28-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

yeh it would Sweet Pea. I just wrote them down as i hadnt seen too much of them just the Harada fight of Jofres.

Look into getting the medel fight, he is as impressive as almost any fighter i've seen in that fight, medel was a quality fighter as well

GPater11093 · 07-28-2009, 04:53 PM

ill try get it

stevebhoy87 · 07-28-2009, 04:58 PM

Just had a look on youtube, used to only have the a small highlight package, it appears to be your lucky day as now have all the footage up

Thread Stealer · 07-28-2009, 07:25 PM

Eusebio Pedroza's best performance was probably his win over Patrick Ford. He looked brilliant in that fight. Nice defense, terrific body attack (actually to the ribs and stomach and not the balls). He also beat an aging Ruben Olivares, and won a close decision in a real foulfest against Juan LaPorte. Although I thought Pedroza should've been DQ'd, it was a pretty entertaining fight and worth watching.

Riddick Bowe, well obviously there's 3 matches with Evander Holyfield. Bowe looked real good in his win over amateur rival Jorge Luis Gonzalez, right before his 3rd match with Holyfield. Right before Bowe faced Holyfield the first time, he fought Pierre Coetzer in a real entertaining fight. Another fight in which Bowe showed his infighting skills, terrific uppercut, and brawling mentality. The rematch with Andrew Golota was one of the most exciting and crazy HW fights I've seen, although a little tough to watch.

If you're looking to order particular fights, I've gotten a ton from this site. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

GPater11093 · 07-29-2009, 04:28 PM

thanks TS and SB

i cant watch YT vids at the moment as they crash my computer

Mendoza · 07-30-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

i was flicking through a top 200 fighters book and i realised although i had heard of all o fthem there was some i had seen very little or no footage off

so i was wondering if anyone could help me out getting footage of some of the guys. Most of them i have 3 or 4 fights of theres but was looking to see more

heres the guys im looking for

Yuri Arbachakov
Lou Ambers
Max Baer
Abe Attel (not sure if footage exists though)
Hogan Bassey
Nino Benvenuti
Riddick bowe
Joe Brown
Orlando Canizales
Jimmy Carruthers
Marcel cerdan
Jeff Chandler
Kid Chocolate
Billy Conn
Pipini Cuevas
Terry Downes
Johnny Dundee
Gabriel Elorde
Alfredo Escalara
Sixto escobar
Luis Estaba
Johnny Famechon
Victor Galindez
Joey Giardello
Buea Jack
Eder Jofre
Pone Kingpetch
Jose Legra
Gus Lesinvinch
Duillio Loi
Jock McAvoy
Saol mambay
Freddie Mills
Brian Mitchell
Manuel Ortiz
Lazlo papp
Jackie Paterson
Eusebio Pedroza
Pascual Perez
Lupe Pintor
Sandy saddler
Vicente Saldivar
Samuel Sarrano
Battling Siki
Ike Willaims
Pongsalak Wongjongkam
Hilario Zapata
Carlos Zarate

I'll recomend three.

Battling Siki is a pure brawler. His fight with Carpeintier is a must see.

Cerdan is a technical powerhouse. Watch out for that hook!

Yuri Arbachakov is very under rated. He looks nearly unbeatable at his weight.

07-28-2009, 04:14 PM	#1
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,125 vCash: 836	Looking to expand my knowledge i was flicking through a top 200 fighters book and i realised although i had heard of all o fthem there was some i had seen very little or no footage off so i was wondering if anyone could help me out getting footage of some of the guys. Most of them i have 3 or 4 fights of theres but was looking to see more heres the guys im looking for Yuri Arbachakov Lou Ambers Max Baer Abe Attel (not sure if footage exists though) Hogan Bassey Nino Benvenuti Riddick bowe Joe Brown Orlando Canizales Jimmy Carruthers Marcel cerdan Jeff Chandler Kid Chocolate Billy Conn Pipini Cuevas Terry Downes Johnny Dundee Gabriel Elorde Alfredo Escalara Sixto escobar Luis Estaba Johnny Famechon Victor Galindez Joey Giardello Buea Jack Eder Jofre Pone Kingpetch Jose Legra Gus Lesinvinch Duillio Loi Jock McAvoy Saol mambay Freddie Mills Brian Mitchell Manuel Ortiz Lazlo papp Jackie Paterson Eusebio Pedroza Pascual Perez Lupe Pintor Sandy saddler Vicente Saldivar Samuel Sarrano Battling Siki Ike Willaims Pongsalak Wongjongkam Hilario Zapata Carlos Zarate
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IntentionalButt Nash Equilibrium Debunker East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 123,593 vCash: 0	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge Bowe is in a top 200 AT fighters list?
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07-28-2009, 04:17 PM	#3
Smith Monzon-like East Side Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 8,810 vCash: 484	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge Jofre and Loi are absolute essentials to learn more about. Make them the priorities. Loi's style is superb to watch.
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07-28-2009, 04:19 PM	#4
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,125 vCash: 836	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge cheers Smith i still got Monzon DVDs in my house for you IB it was just a selection of 200 top boxers
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07-28-2009, 04:29 PM	#6
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,125 vCash: 836	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge ok Smith. theres 3 or 4 DVds
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07-28-2009, 04:41 PM	#8
Sweet Pea P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: I never sleep, cuz sleep is the cousin of death Posts: 16,432 vCash: 1000	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge Come to think of it, not even Jofre has much footage. Just his fights with Harada and Medel if I'm not mistaken. At least of what is readily available. I'm sure there's more out there (possibly of both he and Loi), but it would take some undigging to acquire.
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07-28-2009, 04:45 PM	#9
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,125 vCash: 836	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge yeh it would Sweet Pea. I just wrote them down as i hadnt seen too much of them just the Harada fight of Jofres.
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07-28-2009, 04:53 PM	#11
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,125 vCash: 836	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge ill try get it
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07-28-2009, 04:58 PM	#12
stevebhoy87 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,229 vCash: 1000	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge Just had a look on youtube, used to only have the a small highlight package, it appears to be your lucky day as now have all the footage up
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07-28-2009, 07:25 PM	#13
Thread Stealer P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 17,103 vCash: 1000	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge Eusebio Pedroza's best performance was probably his win over Patrick Ford. He looked brilliant in that fight. Nice defense, terrific body attack (actually to the ribs and stomach and not the balls). He also beat an aging Ruben Olivares, and won a close decision in a real foulfest against Juan LaPorte. Although I thought Pedroza should've been DQ'd, it was a pretty entertaining fight and worth watching. Riddick Bowe, well obviously there's 3 matches with Evander Holyfield. Bowe looked real good in his win over amateur rival Jorge Luis Gonzalez, right before his 3rd match with Holyfield. Right before Bowe faced Holyfield the first time, he fought Pierre Coetzer in a real entertaining fight. Another fight in which Bowe showed his infighting skills, terrific uppercut, and brawling mentality. The rematch with Andrew Golota was one of the most exciting and crazy HW fights I've seen, although a little tough to watch. If you're looking to order particular fights, I've gotten a ton from this site. [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] Last edited by Thread Stealer; 07-29-2009 at 05:34 PM.
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07-29-2009, 04:28 PM	#14
GPater11093 Barry East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 26,125 vCash: 836	Re: Looking to expand my knowledge thanks TS and SB i cant watch YT vids at the moment as they crash my computer
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