Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off - Page 3

barneyrub · 09-09-2007, 08:06 PM

so he held up the wbc title fight all year with all those negotiations and he wouldnhave been able to fight it even if he had got the shot after all those months of haggling with peter and maskaev.
The good side of this is that peter can now fight wlad again if he beats oleg, vitali would have beat peter to protect his brother which im sure was the reason for his comeback anyway, peter is the only guy out there that could trouble wlad, put them in with a ref that doesnt allow wlads clamping holds and leans on the kneck and the fight would be wide open.

EpsilonAxis · 09-09-2007, 08:37 PM

Sad stuff. If this is true, Vitali might as well hang them up...his body obviously can no longer take the stress if he keeps getting injured in training. Sad, considering some consider him the better of the brothers.

A-50 · 09-09-2007, 09:04 PM

has this been confirmed as fact yet?

Heavyrighthand · 09-09-2007, 09:19 PM

Not as bad as it seems on the surface.

ESPN says that it was a very common injury, and that Vitali still wants to fight, and will be able to resume his training in 4 to 6 weeks.

ESPN also says,( merely their opinion,) that the McCline fight probably won't be rescheduled, and that Vitali will probably go right to fighting the winner of Oleg Peter. I think this is probably due to the fact that they think that the Oleg Peter winner won't wait on Vitali to recover from a McCline fight in the winter, and will move on without him. I think Vitali going right to the WBC winner is pushing his luck, but, if he don't cash in on his emeritus status right away, he may not get another chance.

Personally, I think he'll reschedule the McCline fight, and try to then still make the WBC titleshot before it slips away.......as a mere 4 to 6 week postponement is nothing, given how long we've been waiting, already. LOL

Decker · 09-09-2007, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighting Weight

Absolutely no doubt VITLAY would have gottem KO'd by McCline. And Rahman.

Absolutely?

So FW you'd give me 10-1 odds on a Vitali-McCline bout? Your 1000 vs my 100, ok. Hell, you wouldn't make an even money bet on this bout unless Vitali entered the ring wearing a back brace.

Btw, Hasbeen is on the comeback trail - he's beating up unemployed dish washers these days

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJAX

way to go Vitali!! give trolls like FW a reason to come out of his closet.

Closet? I thought his mom let him have the entire basement until he gets a job at Walmart or hits 45 -
whichever comes first.

( <-- FW 6 straight emoticon effect is sooooo coooool)

thesandman · 09-09-2007, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decker

Absolutely?

So FW you'd give me 10-1 odds on a Vitali-McCline bout? Your 1000 vs my 100, ok. Hell, you wouldn't make an even money bet on this bout unless Vitali entered the ring wearing a back brace.

Btw, Hasbeen is on the comeback trail - he's beating up unemployed dish washers these days

Closet? I thought his mom let him have the entire basement until he gets a job at Walmart or hits 45 -
whichever comes first.

( <-- FW 6 straight emoticon effect is sooooo coooool)

Congratulations on completely and utterly missing the joke.

I take you never saw the mythical, 1000 page "gottem" thread about the Lewis v Vitlay fight?

I wouldn't give you 10-1 on a Vitlay win. I might give you the same odds that he actually makes the first scheduled date of a fight. How many postponements is this in a row, 4 or 5???

The mans body has had enough.

teetop · 09-09-2007, 11:37 PM

Fightnews has it so it's official. VK should retire for good.

Decker · 09-09-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesandman

Congratulations on completely and utterly missing the joke.

I take you never saw the mythical, 1000 page "gottem" thread about the Lewis v Vitlay fight?

IIRC, I usually agree w/many of your views. Not sure what the disagreement is here or what joke I missed. FW has his views which are different from mine. Since he's such a "comedian" I was needling him back. I've seen many LL-Vitali threads, not sure about the 1000 page "gottem" thread?

Quote:

I wouldn't give you 10-1 on a Vitlay win. I might give you the same odds that he actually makes the first scheduled date of a fight. How many postponements is this in a row, 4 or 5???

FW claimed that absolutely McCline or Rahmen would KO Vitali. Maybe you agree w/FW. I don't.

Quote:

The mans body has had enough.

That may very well be true.

thesandman · 09-10-2007, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decker

IIRC, I usually agree w/many of your views. Not sure what the disagreement is here or what joke I missed. FW has his views which are different from mine. Since he's such a "comedian" I was needling him back. I've seen many LL-Vitali threads, not sure about the 1000 page "gottem" thread?

FW claimed that absolutely McCline or Rahmen would KO Vitali. Maybe you agree w/FW. I don't.

That may very well be true.

There was a thread started by Patsys that just wouldn't die.

"Absolutely no doubt Vitlay would have gottem KO'd in the 7th round"

I think that was the title. It was huge - hundreds of pages long.
There was probably about a hundred posts that simply said

Lewis TKO 6

to any crazy rant by a Vitlay fan.

Un(?)fortunately, it got lost in the last crash. Hell, it probably caused it!!!

That's all, no major disagreement here.

Decker · 09-10-2007, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesandman

There was a thread started by Patsys that just wouldn't die.

"Absolutely no doubt Vitlay would have gottem KO'd in the 7th round"

I think that was the title. It was huge - hundreds of pages long.
There was probably about a hundred posts that simply said

Lewis TKO 6

to any crazy rant by a Vitlay fan.

OK. I know about that thread, but I never got involved with it. Don't think I even read any of it. Had too much of a troll/wind up vibe. The way you're describing it, my "feel" may have been right.

Funny, Patsys is a guy I remember usually agreeing with

maybe I'm confusing him w/someone else.

Quote:

Un(?)fortunately, it got lost in the last crash. Hell, it probably caused it!!!

Yeah, I know, it was huge.

Quote:

That's all, no major disagreement here.

RPboxer · 09-10-2007, 01:38 AM

If it is his back he is probably done.

WiDDoW_MaKeR · 09-10-2007, 01:43 AM

At 36 years old... I really don't think that Vitali should keep doing this. I understand that he wants to win a title so that him and Wlad can accomplish their dream, but the man is obviously beat down from his years of kickboxing, and boxing. Too much wear and tear, and he is too old, and too big to ever completely recover.

DamonD · 09-10-2007, 05:00 AM

http://www.geekroar.com/film/archive...ohan.young.jpg
"The engines cannae take it, captain!"

Fighting Weight · 09-10-2007, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decker

Absolutely?

So FW you'd give me 10-1 odds on a Vitali-McCline bout? Your 1000 vs my 100, ok. Hell, you wouldn't make an even money bet on this bout unless Vitali entered the ring wearing a back brace.

Btw, Hasbeen is on the comeback trail - he's beating up unemployed dish washers these days

Closet? I thought his mom let him have the entire basement until he gets a job at Walmart or hits 45 -
whichever comes first.

( <-- FW 6 straight emoticon effect is sooooo coooool)

I'd give you 1,000 to 1 odds on a VITLAY- McCline fight sure. My money would be safe seeing as VITLAY can't get in shape, so what are you talking about exactly?

I love the way you insinuate that I'm not too wealthy or smart or whatever - after totally missing the point, very amusing, I never realised Americans got irony so much

By the way I'm in England, we don't have Wal-Mart over here.

Grabonator · 09-10-2007, 09:44 AM

Good bye Vitali.

09-09-2007, 08:06 PM	#31
barneyrub Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,034 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off so he held up the wbc title fight all year with all those negotiations and he wouldnhave been able to fight it even if he had got the shot after all those months of haggling with peter and maskaev. The good side of this is that peter can now fight wlad again if he beats oleg, vitali would have beat peter to protect his brother which im sure was the reason for his comeback anyway, peter is the only guy out there that could trouble wlad, put them in with a ref that doesnt allow wlads clamping holds and leans on the kneck and the fight would be wide open.
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09-09-2007, 08:37 PM	#32
EpsilonAxis HNIC East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pop pop pop! Posts: 12,113 vCash: 2296	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off Sad stuff. If this is true, Vitali might as well hang them up...his body obviously can no longer take the stress if he keeps getting injured in training. Sad, considering some consider him the better of the brothers.
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09-09-2007, 09:04 PM	#33
A-50 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 269 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off has this been confirmed as fact yet?
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09-09-2007, 09:19 PM	#34
Heavyrighthand Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 7,059 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off Not as bad as it seems on the surface. ESPN says that it was a very common injury, and that Vitali still wants to fight, and will be able to resume his training in 4 to 6 weeks. ESPN also says,( merely their opinion,) that the McCline fight probably won't be rescheduled, and that Vitali will probably go right to fighting the winner of Oleg Peter. I think this is probably due to the fact that they think that the Oleg Peter winner won't wait on Vitali to recover from a McCline fight in the winter, and will move on without him. I think Vitali going right to the WBC winner is pushing his luck, but, if he don't cash in on his emeritus status right away, he may not get another chance. Personally, I think he'll reschedule the McCline fight, and try to then still make the WBC titleshot before it slips away.......as a mere 4 to 6 week postponement is nothing, given how long we've been waiting, already. LOL
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09-09-2007, 11:37 PM	#37
teetop Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 328 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off Fightnews has it so it's official. VK should retire for good.
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RPboxer newbie Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 11 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off If it is his back he is probably done.
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09-10-2007, 01:43 AM	#42
WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 23,983 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off At 36 years old... I really don't think that Vitali should keep doing this. I understand that he wants to win a title so that him and Wlad can accomplish their dream, but the man is obviously beat down from his years of kickboxing, and boxing. Too much wear and tear, and he is too old, and too big to ever completely recover.
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09-10-2007, 05:00 AM	#43
DamonD Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tavistock, England Posts: 10,384 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off http://www.geekroar.com/film/archive...ohan.young.jpg "The engines cannae take it, captain!"
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09-10-2007, 09:44 AM	#45
Grabonator Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Germany Posts: 476 vCash: 1000	Re: Klitschko vs. McCline seems to be off Good bye Vitali.
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