The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry - Page 5

Flea Man · 08-18-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlFrancis

I'm 1 minute into the 4th and i've got him comfortably up. I gave Vasquez the first on workrate.

I watched a snippet of the last part and Galaxy is just throwing a jab, dictating the pace. That's all I've seen. I'ma put it on my ipod and go watch it out in the shed...........Mum won't let me smoke in the house

Hopefully it will be a good'un. If he wins convincingly it will further his credentials in my eyes.

Flea Man · 08-18-2009, 05:33 PM

I gave the first two rounds to Vasquez on pressing the fight, though I was surprised at how Galaxy was getting closer each time in countering the longer height and reach of Vasquez.

From the 3rd-to-mid rounds what caught my eye was Galaxy's varied attack, particularly to the body. A few times he had Vasquez backpeddling after hitting him with some barbaric shots to the midsection. Good countering shots from Galaxy too; Gomez using his jab well though, not quiting landing with any power punches yet. Nothing significant anyway.

I give the 9th round to Vasquez. Towards the end of the round he starts to time Galaxy better. Right at the end he lands a succession of straight rights down the pipe that all land, maybe four in a row. Galaxy takes them well.

Vasquez picks up right where he left off at the beginning of th 10th, for me the closest of the fight. He fires a few straight rights and follows with a left hook that has Galaxy covering up as Vasquez attempts another combination. Galaxy pushes Vasquez away and fires back but Vasquez tries to maintain the jab and still fires back a few combos. I'm actually going to go for the better work in the first half of the fight, and give this round to Vasquez. I think he dominated the first 30-60 seconds or so and it was relatively close afterward.

The 11th and 12th; Galaxy dominates these rounds IMO. The 12th round he gives Vasquez a real shellacking, first off dictating the pace with his jab, which he throws with a minimum of effort but a maximum of potency. It keeps Vasquez away, and then Galaxy launches a sustained attack that gives him the fight easily.

The controversial Hometown Decision is this time too close; a SD in Galaxy's favour. I hd Galaxy 116-112.

From this fight however I saw a possible Zarate match come to the fore; I decided that Zarate would stop Galaxy, who has given a good account of himself, around the 9th. Like Vasquez, Zarate is tall for a Bantam and has an upright style on the outside but can throw short punches on the inside. He also threw a nice straight jab and steady, unflashy footwork.

What Zarate has in leaps and bounds over Vasquez is increased timing and accuracy, as well as a massive amount in power.

The reason I think Galaxy does okay is because of his good body attack and lateral movement, proven durability and a good straight left. The only time I have seen Zarate hurt pre-Gomez is against Rodolfo Martinez. I think it's in the 6th round; Martinez lands a nice straight left that briefly buckles Zarate and sends him back, although he quickly recovers.

Galaxy would be getting tagged late, and hit hard; he has a good chin but against Zarate it's out of the question.

I'm quite wrecked and typing in a stream of consciousness. That hypothetical matchup is probably uncalled for and uninteresting but fuck it

Raging B(_)LL · 08-18-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by fleaman

Just intrigued to see if anyone knows why Moon got so battered in the second fight?

Moon`s trainer dying the day before the fight surely affected his performance a great deal, he definately didn`t look like the same man from their first encounter notwithstanding Khaokor`s better form in the rematch.

Had it not been for his trainers death Moon would have at the very least acquitted himself better, but as is stands he showed a ton of guts and durability as he got the snot kicked out of him most of the way and still made it to the final bell.

AlFrancis · 08-18-2009, 06:34 PM

Nice analysis and altough I didn't put pen to paper scoring it I wouldn't argue with your scorecard. How one judge scored for Vasquez is beyond me. He was competitive though throughout the fight but Galaxy did seem to be dictating for most part. Very strong and a good body puncher. Wonder how he would of went against Venice Borkorsor.

AlFrancis · 08-18-2009, 06:37 PM

Gonna watch the Moon fights tomorrow, Need to see more of him.

Flea Man · 08-19-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Raging B(_)LL

Moon`s trainer dying the day before the fight surely affected his performance a great deal, he definately didn`t look like the same man from their first encounter notwithstanding Khaokor`s better form in the rematch.

Had it not been for his trainers death Moon would have at the very least acquitted himself better, but as is stands he showed a ton of guts and durability as he got the snot kicked out of him most of the way and still made it to the final bell.

Good post, exactly the kind of info I was looking for!

Flea Man · 08-19-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Gonna watch the Moon fights tomorrow, Need to see more of him.

Enjoy

I need to look up Borkhorsor, don't know enough about him in all honesty.

Flea Man · 08-19-2009, 01:53 PM

Harada vs Galaxy is another very intriguing clash styles.

I was thinking today about Hamed's performance about a past-prime and out of his best weight Vasquez; Which was more impressive? Hamed pretty much dominated and stopped Vasquez(who was more wiley) but Galaxy looked terrific against him also, closer to his prime.

GPater11093 · 08-19-2009, 02:14 PM

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Eh, calm down calm down

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Originally Posted by AlFrancis

Haha. I actually had the perm and muzzy in my younger days. Driving round in my Cortina mk5, thought i looked the bollocks. Looking back now i just looked like bollocks.

nice choice of car though. When i was younger me and my Dad used to watch alot of the Proffesionbals and Sweeney etc.. so i love them Cortinas, old style escorts and my favrouite the Capri's.

Just saw that first round 'KO'

I thought it was funny the way the ref walked across the screen then you just saw Galacy lieing on the ground. Definitly looked like he fainted even the way he looked on the ground was like he had fainted.

I ll watch these 2 great wars (as im told) soon as im bust at the moment and have been trying for a few days to get some time to watch Pryor vs Arguello 1 (which i have concurred is the greatest fight ever)

As for the talk of the Golden Bantams.

The best Bantamweight ever for me was Ruben Olivares, he was brilliant one of the best fighters i have ever seen.

Lionel Rose belongs as part of these Golden Bantams. Hes one of my favrouite fighters to watch and a great 'pure' boxer. Very hard to out box.

I havent saw enough of Zarate just the destruction of Zamora.

Jofre i have seen the fights with Harada and Medal and from that videos he belongs up there aswell. His long straight calculated shots were simply amazing. Again one of the best boxers i have ever seen.

Harada belongs up there aswell. Have only saw the Rose and Jofre (first) fight of him but he did impress me. However i did think he was quite wild and reckless but upon learning more and watching the fights again he was actually a very underrated boxer (not the greatest boxer though). Im very impressed at him just not as much as the other guys

God, i love the bantams

Flea Man · 08-19-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

God, i love the bantams

GPater11093 · 08-19-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fleaman

Im really getting into that Hasegawa hes a solid fighter.

Im getting a heap of Fly/Bantam with some other fights mixed in from RB. So ill love Fly/Bantam even more.

Really got into the lower weights recently way better than the heavyweights

Flea Man · 08-19-2009, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

Im really getting into that Hasegawa hes a solid fighter.

Im getting a heap of Fly/Bantam with some other fights mixed in from RB. So ill love Fly/Bantam even more.

Really got into the lower weights recently way better than the heavyweights

Different to the Heavys certaintly.

Fingers crossed for Hasegawa-Donaire sometime in 2010, not too many Jap nuthuggers around

GPater11093 · 08-19-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fleaman

Different to the Heavys certaintly.

Fingers crossed for Hasegawa-Donaire sometime in 2010, not too many Jap nuthuggers around

Hasegawa vs Donaire

Donaires a light fly/fly aint he? moving up to Superfly

Id rather see Hasegawa vs Montiel that would be good.

also theres a guy at Minimumweight Roman Gonzalez whos very good and was trained by Arguello for a few months when he was younger. Recently came by some of his early fights

Flea Man · 08-19-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GPater11093

Hasegawa vs Donaire

Donaires a light fly/fly aint he? moving up to Superfly

Id rather see Hasegawa vs Montiel that would be good.

also theres a guy at Minimumweight Roman Gonzalez whos very good and was trained by Arguello for a few months when he was younger. Recently came by some of his early fights

You're way behind me mate! I'm admittedly a Gonzalez nuthugger, the Niida win was a fantastic one. I really want to see him fight Joyi, who I've yet to see in action but have only heard brilliant things about. He's the IBF champ.

Though it looks Gonzalez is moving up to Light-Fly, hopefully a fight with a returning Solis before a fight with Villoria. Doubt Roman is on Calderon's radar to be honest.

Sweet Pea · 08-19-2009, 04:03 PM

The Rose bout is about the worst footage of Harada you could view, where he was badly weight drained and slowing down by that point anyway. If you want to see him in his prime, just re-watch the Jofre fights, he was a superb boxer. Excellent technique, brilliant combinations to the head and body, beautiful footwork, good defense, etc. Harada was one of the most versatile lower weight fighters of all time.

08-18-2009, 05:33 PM	#62
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry I gave the first two rounds to Vasquez on pressing the fight, though I was surprised at how Galaxy was getting closer each time in countering the longer height and reach of Vasquez. From the 3rd-to-mid rounds what caught my eye was Galaxy's varied attack, particularly to the body. A few times he had Vasquez backpeddling after hitting him with some barbaric shots to the midsection. Good countering shots from Galaxy too; Gomez using his jab well though, not quiting landing with any power punches yet. Nothing significant anyway. I give the 9th round to Vasquez. Towards the end of the round he starts to time Galaxy better. Right at the end he lands a succession of straight rights down the pipe that all land, maybe four in a row. Galaxy takes them well. Vasquez picks up right where he left off at the beginning of th 10th, for me the closest of the fight. He fires a few straight rights and follows with a left hook that has Galaxy covering up as Vasquez attempts another combination. Galaxy pushes Vasquez away and fires back but Vasquez tries to maintain the jab and still fires back a few combos. I'm actually going to go for the better work in the first half of the fight, and give this round to Vasquez. I think he dominated the first 30-60 seconds or so and it was relatively close afterward. The 11th and 12th; Galaxy dominates these rounds IMO. The 12th round he gives Vasquez a real shellacking, first off dictating the pace with his jab, which he throws with a minimum of effort but a maximum of potency. It keeps Vasquez away, and then Galaxy launches a sustained attack that gives him the fight easily. The controversial Hometown Decision is this time too close; a SD in Galaxy's favour. I hd Galaxy 116-112. From this fight however I saw a possible Zarate match come to the fore; I decided that Zarate would stop Galaxy, who has given a good account of himself, around the 9th. Like Vasquez, Zarate is tall for a Bantam and has an upright style on the outside but can throw short punches on the inside. He also threw a nice straight jab and steady, unflashy footwork. What Zarate has in leaps and bounds over Vasquez is increased timing and accuracy, as well as a massive amount in power. The reason I think Galaxy does okay is because of his good body attack and lateral movement, proven durability and a good straight left. The only time I have seen Zarate hurt pre-Gomez is against Rodolfo Martinez. I think it's in the 6th round; Martinez lands a nice straight left that briefly buckles Zarate and sends him back, although he quickly recovers. Galaxy would be getting tagged late, and hit hard; he has a good chin but against Zarate it's out of the question. I'm quite wrecked and typing in a stream of consciousness. That hypothetical matchup is probably uncalled for and uninteresting but fuck it
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08-18-2009, 06:34 PM	#64
AlFrancis Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Granada, Spain. Posts: 3,955 vCash: 1000	Re: The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry Nice analysis and altough I didn't put pen to paper scoring it I wouldn't argue with your scorecard. How one judge scored for Vasquez is beyond me. He was competitive though throughout the fight but Galaxy did seem to be dictating for most part. Very strong and a good body puncher. Wonder how he would of went against Venice Borkorsor.
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08-18-2009, 06:37 PM	#65
AlFrancis Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Granada, Spain. Posts: 3,955 vCash: 1000	Re: The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry Gonna watch the Moon fights tomorrow, Need to see more of him.
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08-19-2009, 01:53 PM	#68
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,056 vCash: 75	Re: The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry Harada vs Galaxy is another very intriguing clash styles. I was thinking today about Hamed's performance about a past-prime and out of his best weight Vasquez; Which was more impressive? Hamed pretty much dominated and stopped Vasquez(who was more wiley) but Galaxy looked terrific against him also, closer to his prime.
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08-19-2009, 04:03 PM	#75
Sweet Pea P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: I never sleep, cuz sleep is the cousin of death Posts: 16,432 vCash: 1000	Re: The Moon-Galaxy Rivalry The Rose bout is about the worst footage of Harada you could view, where he was badly weight drained and slowing down by that point anyway. If you want to see him in his prime, just re-watch the Jofre fights, he was a superb boxer. Excellent technique, brilliant combinations to the head and body, beautiful footwork, good defense, etc. Harada was one of the most versatile lower weight fighters of all time.
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