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Old 08-29-2009, 07:19 PM   #16
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Nas was definetly finished by the time he fought Barerra relied to much on his power, Just luck at his sparring wat he was having for the build up to the fight he was all over the place, if he stayed with the ingles and produced a display of his younger days i think he wud ov stopped Barrera.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:54 PM   #17
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always had big holes in that defence.

got away with em in the early days cos his reflexes were still tip top.

started declining in his mid 20's and had no fundamentals to fall back on.

i thought barrera was gonna demolish him before they fought.

he didn't demolish him but he certainly schooled him.
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Old 08-29-2009, 09:26 PM   #18
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Naz was shot by the time he fought Berrera.He was arrogant beyond belief and had not trained or prepared properly.His brothers and the yes men that he had following him around shouting "you da man" had convinced Naz he was unbeatable and didn't have to answer to anyone.
I don't like ******,but had Naz stayed with ****** and Ingle he could of been an ATG.
Like him or not he was a fantastic fighter and almost certainly the hardest punching featherweight in history.If Poison could stop Berrera a fit and motivated Naz would have decapitated him.
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Old 08-30-2009, 02:04 AM   #19
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Naz was being taught to be a ballet dancer by the same trainer who taught Frietas to become a ballet dancer, it ruined his career. I love to watch Hamed fight, esp. Hamed Vs. Kelly!
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:27 AM   #20
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always had big holes in that defence.

got away with em in the early days cos his reflexes were still tip top.

started declining in his mid 20's and had no fundamentals to fall back on.

i thought barrera was gonna demolish him before they fought.

he didn't demolish him but he certainly schooled him.
Naz took 4 rounds off him, hardly a schooling.
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Old 08-30-2009, 12:15 PM   #21
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Naz took 4 rounds off him, hardly a schooling.

Yeah. I get a bit bored with this "Barrera school Naz" school of thought.

I dunno if people have just heard that from others and repeated it without first proving it to themselves but I'm sure if they watched the fight again, objectively, they wouldn't come away with that conclusion.

Marco was certainly the better man on the night but he never knocked Nas down (legally) and finally came away with a UD but some rounds easily went to Nas and there are a couple that you could actually debate.

EDIT: How the bleedin' 'ell did you manage to rack up so many posts within a year?? If only Naz had an ounce of your dedication!
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:15 PM   #22
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Naz had all the flashy shots and switch hitting at the best. He was great at what he did not the greatest but was great and he sell a fight. Britian has never seen anyone like Naz who was more of a showman than Eubank and he just put boxing in the UK back on the map when he was at his peak. Yes he hadn't got the heart to be a all time great but he is 1 of the British all time greats not my number 1 as that has to be Calzaghe for me but thats another debat.
Naz fell out of love with boxing after the defeat which was a shame as he could of been paired with a lot of top class fighters. I would of loved to see Naz fight Scott Harrison back then that would of been a battle of Britian.
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:09 PM   #23
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Barrera, Marquez, Morales and Pac all beat him. I'd love to claim otherwise but that would seem to be the case IMO.
Have to disagree

A peak Hamed could beat and probabaly KO them all.
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Old 08-31-2009, 12:19 AM   #24
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Have to disagree

A peak Hamed could beat and probabaly KO them all.
He'd at least have a great chance, I'd say
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Old 08-31-2009, 06:45 AM   #25
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Naz took 4 rounds off him, hardly a schooling.
naz took 3 rds.

4 at a push and only cos of that deduction in the 12th.

barrera was bouncing em off his nugget all night.

he was well beaten despite nicking a few rds.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:26 AM   #26
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naz took 3 rds.

4 at a push and only cos of that deduction in the 12th.

barrera was bouncing em off his nugget all night.

he was well beaten despite nicking a few rds.
Doesn't matter how you dress it up. Barrera/Hamed wasn't a schooling.

A schooling is Lacy/Calzaghe or Pavlik/Hopkins.

Just look at the difference in the scores.
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:33 AM   #27
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Naseem Hamed will go down as one of the greatest fighter Britain has ever produced, i thought he was a **** though towards the end, an arrogant gob****e who started listening to the wrong people.

As for prime v prime i think of recent years Barrera, Morales, Pacquaio and Juan Manuel Marquez all beat him.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:25 PM   #28
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Hamed done a interview for BBC Sportsweek. You can hear the interview on the BBC site. Interview starts just past the 42min mark.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:23 PM   #29
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Hamed done a interview for BBC Sportsweek. You can hear the interview on the BBC site. Interview starts just past the 42min mark.
is it this weeks one?

the one with jessica ennis, phillips idowu and tim henmen being interviewed as well.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:30 PM   #30
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here's an article about the interview.

so hand problems brought about his retirement.

shame he had to wait 7 yrs to tell us.

By Clive Bernath: Even though he never officially retired I always felt I knew the real reason Naseem Hamed never fought again after out-pointing Spaniard Manuel Calvo in May, 2002.

On Sunday my suspicions were finally proved correct when Naz revealed to BBC Radio 5’s Live Sports week programme that damaged hands forced him stop practising the sport he loved.

"I had hand trouble and could not take the power of my punch," Hamed BBC 5 Live.

"I needed cortisone injections to take away the pain when I fought, then after every fight the gloves would be whipped off and my hands would be as big as balloons.



"It was getting ridiculous and you can’t go on with no ammunition. I was one of the hardest punchers ever known but if the hands are quite brittle and you do damage, then it’s hard to carry on."

There were a number of reasons why my suspicions were aroused concerning Hamed’s lack of activity after the win over Calvo, and it was not just because he stunk out the London Arena with arguably the worst performance of his 37 fight career. No, I vividly remember being ringside that particular night on May 18, 2002 and rather conveniently overheard Hamed confide to promoter Barry Hearn that ‘my hands are f**ked’. As Hamed walked down the steps from the ring he whispered into Hearn’s ear, ‘my hands are f**ked, there’s just nothing there’.

It all makes perfect sense when you think about it because although Hamed was gifted with lightening fast reflexes, especially in the early days, he possessed even greater fire power in those fists he aptly named ‘Rocket Launchers’. Think about it? 31 ko’s from 37 fights. At just 5ft 4 and 9st Hamed hit harder than some world class welterweights. In fact he probably knocked out more fighters with a single shot than any other British boxer so its no wonder those fists ended up being damaged beyond repair.

As mentioned earlier Hamed has never officially retired but after piling on the weight, settling more and more into family life and the fact he has now come clean about his damaged hands I think we can safely assume he will never fight again.

Naseem Hamed may not have been the most popular British boxer in history but one could argue that pound for pound he was one of the hardest hitters.
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