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Old 03-18-2013, 12:26 AM   #1486
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Ofcourse, an ex professional wouldn't know how livershots feel.
In all honesty, I haven't been hurt badly to the body since I was 17 years old. I dunno if its the abs or defense, but body work hasn't actually hurt in my pro career.

Mike Tyson has said something similar to that. It might be mindset or muscle structure. Or the ab wheel, which is a godsend.

I should give Lamon a call and ask him about that fight. We've never actually conversed about. It'd be interesting to see what he remembers and how he remembers it going.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:32 PM   #1487
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Wladimir Klitschko is a REAL heavyweight who actually fights HEAVYWEIGHTS. if we're talking the better HW here, than obviously Wlad. H2h head? WLAD. Why is it so hard for people to accept that HW's from before the 60s-70s just weren't big enough to compete with the guys of today. take your rose-colored glasses off and just accept that the guys from back then would get smoked today.
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Old 03-18-2013, 03:34 PM   #1488
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Marciano was a great fighter btw, nothing but respect for him. He would just get smashed by Wlad as he's as MUCH bigger fighter.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:24 PM   #1489
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Marciano was a great fighter btw, nothing but respect for him. He would just get smashed by Wlad as he's as MUCH bigger fighter.
Valuev weighed more then David Haye by 100pounds
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #1490
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Valuev weighed more then David Haye by 100pounds
A bit different when you have a slow lumbering giant against a fast agile HW. Wlad is a very athletic and skilled boxer, he wouldn't have any trouble at all with Marciano.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:34 PM   #1491
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A bit different when you have a slow lumbering giant against a fast agile HW. Wlad is a very athletic and skilled boxer, he wouldn't have any trouble at all with Marciano.
oh Yep of course of course. He'll just KO him because he's so big even though Marciano has beaten bigger men before. Taken a shot right on the chin from Joe Louis. Never been hurt in a fight. Only knocked down twice in his career which he jumped straight back up. Fought a better skilled fighter in Ezzard Charles,Walcott and defensive master Moore.

Boxer is all physical! I get it now.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:40 PM   #1492
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Size doesn't matter at all.... I suppose Floyd Mayweather would have a chance at beating Wladamir despite weighing almost 100 lbs less than him...
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:43 PM   #1493
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Size doesn't matter at all.... I suppose Floyd Mayweather would have a chance at beating Wladamir despite weighing almost 100 lbs less than him...
Mayweather isn't a HW so we can't make comparisons but I would bet the house he would have a extremely hard time hitting him. Small guy like Mayweather could run all night,KO? No but survive yes.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:51 PM   #1494
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Marciano was smaller than a lot of CW today. he would be at an extreme disadvantage when facing a guy like Wlad.

Wlad is 6'6
Rocky was 5'11

Wlads reach is 81 in
Rockys reach was 67 in

Rocky weighed about 185
Wlad weighs around 245


Wlad would easily overpower Marciano and keep him at bay with his jab and reach advantage, if Marciano got in too close Wlad would simply push him off of him or lean on him. Wlad would keep his distance landing his jab at will along with 1-2s, I doubt Marciano would make it to the mid rounds even. Wlad KO 5.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:54 PM   #1495
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In all honesty, I haven't been hurt badly to the body since I was 17 years old. I dunno if its the abs or defense, but body work hasn't actually hurt in my pro career.

Mike Tyson has said something similar to that. It might be mindset or muscle structure. Or the ab wheel, which is a godsend.

I should give Lamon a call and ask him about that fight. We've never actually conversed about. It'd be interesting to see what he remembers and how he remembers it going.
I reading your posts MagnaNasakki and they are great to read.But you now saying that you never hurt in pro career.I read your older post where you are saying that you never turn pro.Here is that post:
First time I ever sparred a big name was when George Foreman came to the gym I helped run with my father-in-law. After failing to make the 88 Olympic team, I neglected some nice offers to turn pro(I was not the most talented fighter, but I hit like a mother****er) to try to start my family right, and just never got around to it. Years and years later I'm no longer fighting but training 6 days a week operating a facility, and George Foreman came in wanting to work out. We let him, but he wanted to spar, and we had nothing but kids 185 and below. Big George looks at me and says,

"You're a very large fella, friend, would you work with me?"

We sparred a couple rounds, he signed me as a partner for 3 straight camps, which allowed me to leap frog to other camps and get work.

It's always exciting to spar the best. I always got mess for never having turned pro, but I fought Lennox Lewis in the amateurs, as well as Riddick Bowe as we were both NY boys, and could box a bit, and bang alot. I was a pretty popular fella throughout the 90's in the gym. Even got to go oversea's in the new millenium and work.
Please explain that.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:55 PM   #1496
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You think Rocky is like the other people Wlad has face? Rocky fights from a crouch something Wladimir has never faced and is a pressure fighter something he faced in Peters and he looked terrible. Rocky will not let Wladimir set up his jab and if he did his crouch position enables him to go low which would make Wladimir miss setting him up for crouch spring body shots which would hurt him and discourage Wladimir. All night jab - go low,wear him down and finish him.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:31 PM   #1497
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That fact that this thread has 1500+ replies is proof that classic isn't all that it's cracked up to be. Even the General forum would laugh this thread out
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:21 PM   #1498
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I reading your posts MagnaNasakki and they are great to read.But you now saying that you never hurt in pro career.I read your older post where you are saying that you never turn pro.Here is that post:
First time I ever sparred a big name was when George Foreman came to the gym I helped run with my father-in-law. After failing to make the 88 Olympic team, I neglected some nice offers to turn pro(I was not the most talented fighter, but I hit like a mother****er) to try to start my family right, and just never got around to it. Years and years later I'm no longer fighting but training 6 days a week operating a facility, and George Foreman came in wanting to work out. We let him, but he wanted to spar, and we had nothing but kids 185 and below. Big George looks at me and says,

"You're a very large fella, friend, would you work with me?"

We sparred a couple rounds, he signed me as a partner for 3 straight camps, which allowed me to leap frog to other camps and get work.

It's always exciting to spar the best. I always got mess for never having turned pro, but I fought Lennox Lewis in the amateurs, as well as Riddick Bowe as we were both NY boys, and could box a bit, and bang alot. I was a pretty popular fella throughout the 90's in the gym. Even got to go oversea's in the new millenium and work.
Please explain that.
Pro career as a sparring partner?
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:44 PM   #1499
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^ You sure that was Magna? Just did a search and nothing came up besides lefe's post.
Search for:Famous Sparring beatdowns - Page 5
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Old 03-18-2013, 06:52 PM   #1500
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In fact, Magna never actually posted in that thread after a search I just did.
Here is the link:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
It is last post of that page 5.
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