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Old 12-26-2012, 07:45 PM   #586
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Whats you're point? Explain?
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Luf , retire from this thread.

Wlad CANNOT trade with anybody. Show me footage of Wlad going toe to toe with a fighter. He has no power on the inside. How does he destroy one of the greatest sluggers of all time who's hands were at their most destructive in close while having a terrible chin. Rocks eats him alive in a trade off.

You cant be taken seriously.
A true hw I'd agree with you. A guy he is 60 pounds heavier than he would decimate punch for punch.

It's unfair on rocky this matchup. He shouldn't have to face people any bigger than say Liston.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:48 PM   #588
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This isn't everybody. Its a fighter with to many weaknesses. You wont find me defending Rock against other ATG great HWs.
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Old 12-26-2012, 07:51 PM   #589
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Luf , retire from this thread.

Wlad CANNOT trade with anybody. Show me footage of Wlad going toe to toe with a fighter. He has no power on the inside. How does he destroy one of the greatest sluggers of all time who's hands were at their most destructive in close while having a terrible chin. Rocks eats him alive in a trade off.

You cant be taken seriously.
Who exactly can be taken seriously by you?
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Great skill set? Lets see.....cant do anything on the inside but hold, dont see him blocking, parrying, slipping punches, certainly don't see counter punches off of good defensive maneuvers. He has a long but ponderous jab and a good straight right. Dont see much of a hook probably because he is afraid to throw it (more open for counters). He fights like a walking statue..very European in his straight up style. Now if you add that fragile chin (proven by THREE brutal KO losses), questionable courage (his reactions when he is dropped/hit with a ko shot) you don't have a fighter that in my estimation would be able to hang around long with any past all time great hwt champion let along a fighter as ferocious as Marciano.
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Whats you're point? Explain?
My point is simply that you're either trolling this thread, or you simply haven't got a clue what you're talking about.
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Great skill set? Lets see.....cant do anything on the inside but hold, dont see him blocking, parrying, slipping punches, certainly don't see counter punches off of good defensive maneuvers. He has a long but ponderous jab and a good straight right. Dont see much of a hook probably because he is afraid to throw it (more open for counters). He fights like a walking statue..very European in his straight up style. Now if you add that fragile chin (proven by THREE brutal KO losses), questionable courage (his reactions when he is dropped/hit with a ko shot) you don't have a fighter that in my estimation would be able to hang around long with any past all time great hwt champion let along a fighter as ferocious as Marciano.
Took you off my ignore list for a moment, to see if you'd made a halfway decent post. Put you back on it again.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:00 PM   #593
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" It's been proven Rocky's a harder hitter? Please, show me the proof."

^^ Good lord. Imagine this guy tells me im wrong.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:02 PM   #594
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" It's been proven Rocky's a harder hitter? Please, show me the proof."

^^ Good lord. Imagine this guy tells me im wrong.
No seriously. Prove it. With facts.
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Ali was a poor inside fighter but he also had a chin of iron and tremendous courage in the ring. His ability to BOX...slip, block, parry and overall fighting ability is second to none. So in many ways the exact opposite of Wlad. Ali and Rocky were far greater fighters than Wlad will ever be. Ive been involved in boxing since 1970 how about you? If your so easily impressed by Wlad you must be a real newbie!
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" It's been proven Rocky's a harder hitter? Please, show me the proof."

You can wait because i dont debate with people who dont know boxing.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:14 PM   #597
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Is it possible that the people on this board inaccurately rating Wlad so high are European? I have spoken to many in the fight game in the US any no one is as impressed with Wlad as what I am hearing here. Dundee and Atlas both thought Rocky would crush Wlad as do most of the people I hang out with in the fight game on the east coast. I could see the bias since you guys have not been a player in the hwt division in many years. Wlad comes along and even though chumps knock him silly you think he beats Rocky Marciano.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:15 PM   #598
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" It's been proven Rocky's a harder hitter? Please, show me the proof."

You can wait because i dont debate with people who dont know boxing.
Oh just shut up now. Your trolling is obvious.
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Just not easily impressed as you obviously are.
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Ok , so civilian's are now putting in there experiences sparring in they're local gym and how they felt pain as an argument.
This thread has just because far too stupid for me.
This coming from the Mensa member who doesn't know the difference between "there" and "their" and "faint" and "feint". Quite a feat.

Also, another bonus to sparring at "local gyms" (where a few ex world champs might have been working out or training) is you get to talk to guys who know the game from the inside, hear stories, anecdotes and like... at least, if they are not total assholes. The obstacles to fighting a significantly larger man are not confined to amateurs and those less skilled. Did you even listen to Nazim Richardson last weekend when 205 pound, 6-2 Cunningham was dealing with a blown-up cruiser in Adamek who was a mere 20 pounds heavier? What was he saying? How was Cunningham, who still had a significant reach advantage, directed by Richardson? What was the single obstacle there, just one of the many that Marciano would face against Wlad?
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