Wladimir Klitschko vs. Rocky Marciano

[Synthetic Decay]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

Wlad in many ways is the typical European hwt. That straight up, rigid style.....walking statue. I have been watching boxing and studying boxing history since 1970 and sorry I do not see what is great about Wlad. He certainly has fought more tomato cans than I have ever seen. He cant take a punch and the three times he was taken to task he crumbled physically and mentally. In a real tough fight odds are he is not coming out on top. Rocky, Louis, Ali, Dempsey would all give him a tough fight and in the end he would lose.

Wlad is actually fluid for a big guy. All of those fighters you listed would lose to Wlad apart from Ali and i would still favor Wlad by a decent margin. Tyson, Foreman, Lewis i favor over Wlad.

Walking statue lol, you have no idea what you are watching.

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

Guts..The ability to be KD, hurt and not look for the exits. Watch all three of his Ko losses and can you honestly tell me you dont see fear, you dont see that I want out of here look on his face?

Whats very disingenuous is if Marciano was KOed even once in the manner Wlad was koed everyone here would be the first to point at that loss as to why Wlad or any other fighter would beat Marciano. Because its Wlad you ignore or try your best to pass off these brutal Kos against fighters so very inferior to Marciano. Purity, Brewster and Sanders are nobodies in boxing history. None of them will be given a paragraph in any boxing history book 10 years from now. Yet all three brutally KOed Wlad. In all three bouts Wlad fell in sections in comical fashion but no its OK....we can pass all this away...it does not matter right? No..it DOES matter. At some point in the bout Marciano will hit Wlad full force on the chin and that chin is going to cave. Once hurt Wlad cant defend himself and its all over from there.

utter bullshit. watch the first peter fight. he got up 3 times and won. with heart

watch the sanders knockout. watch the brewster knockout. he KEEPS GETTING UP

and the idea that marciano is the one being held to an unfair standard is preposterous. those are 3 nobodies...but they are brought up CONSTANTLY to discredit wlad. plenty of fighters have lost to people that had no business beating them...you don't hear about it nearly as much as you hear about wlad's losses. but he KEEPS COMING BACK. that's ****ing heart and he's dominated nearly a decade because of it.

[Nightcrawler]

[quote=Absolutely!;14530093]I swear you must have repeated yourself about fifty times in this thread. Are you by any chance a spambot?[/quote]

don't besmirch the fine name of spam

[Synthetic Decay]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

Guts..The ability to be KD, hurt and not look for the exits. Watch all three of his Ko losses and can you honestly tell me you dont see fear, you dont see that I want out of here look on his face?

Whats very disingenuous is if Marciano was KOed even once in the manner Wlad was koed everyone here would be the first to point at that loss as to why Wlad or any other fighter would beat Marciano. Because its Wlad you ignore or try your best to pass off these brutal Kos against fighters so very inferior to Marciano. Purity, Brewster and Sanders are nobodies in boxing history. None of them will be given a paragraph in any boxing history book 10 years from now. Yet all three brutally KOed Wlad. In all three bouts Wlad fell in sections in comical fashion but no its OK....we can pass all this away...it does not matter right? No..it DOES matter. At some point in the bout Marciano will hit Wlad full force on the chin and that chin is going to cave. Once hurt Wlad cant defend himself and its all over from there.

Please tell everyone what you think would happen if Wlad landed a flush right hand on Rock?

And all three didn't brutally K.O Wlad, try watching the fights.

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

don't besmirch the fine name of spam

Hey, I like spam as much as the next man as part of a healthy varied diet. But this guy's serving me some goddamned Monty Python shit

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by Absolutely!

Hey, I like spam as much as the next man as part of a healthy varied diet. But this guy's serving me some goddamned Monty Python shit

at least all these pages lead to some REAL analysis and gave some real support that more times than not, rocky loses

[dinovelvet]

He fell to to canvas after the bell against Brewster. He didn't even take a punch.

Even by his own admission fighting is not in his nature. Rocky will make him fight and he wont out brawl him. His brother maybe but not Wlad.

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

He fell to to canvas after the bell against Brewster. He didn't even take a punch.

Even by his own admission fighting is not in his nature. Rocky will make him fight and he wont out brawl him. His brother maybe but not Wlad.

no he won't. rocky will get outboxed and hurt, round after round. this thread has pretty much run it's course and even if you don't agree, there seems to be a pretty clear consensus

[dinovelvet]

Are you saying Rocky cant step inside and land a single punch ?

There has been a lot of very knowledgeble poster here who favoured Rocky , even MacGrain. Are they all wrong?

[Synthetic Decay]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Are you saying Rocky cant step inside and land a single punch ?

There has been a lot of very knowledgeble poster here who favoured Rocky , even MacGrain. Are they all wrong?

Too slow, too small, physically overpowered at close range, wrong style/attributes to beat Wlad.

[Absolutely!]

Originally Posted by Nightcrawler

no he won't. rocky will get outboxed and hurt, round after round. this thread has pretty much run it's course and even if you don't agree, there seems to be a pretty clear consensus

I want to hear about how Wlad is a gutless cowardly walking statue with no skills, heart, chin or footwork. Just one more time.

[Nightcrawler]

Originally Posted by dinovelvet

Are you saying Rocky cant step inside and land a single punch ?

There has been a lot of very knowledgeble poster here who favoured Rocky , even MacGrain. Are they all wrong?

not saying they're wrong or i'm wrong. there's a reasonable consensus here though and the arguments by many fans are just going in circles.

and i'm saying rocky's punches will be kept to a minimum. one punch will not do it. that's unreasonable

[Bummy Davis]

Originally Posted by Seamus

So, Panama Al Brown would KO Frans Botha?

And who says Wlad is not the greater fighter? He has been the best heavyweight longer for as long as Marciano had a career in the sport. There is at least an argument to made there.

not panama Al Brown but possibly 5'8 Sam Langford, 5'11 Joe Frazier or Rocky Marciano

[HOUDINI]

I want to hear about how Wlad is a gutless cowardly walking statue with no skills, heart, chin or footwork. Just one more time.

Wlad was Koed THREE times by nobodies. Yet he beats one of boxings all time greats with ease? Marciano proved himself that he can take a horrible beating, horrible injuries and not for a second does he give up. Wlad...hit him, hurt him, bring him to the brink...and he drowns...not once but three times. Wlad if he does bring Rocky to the brink there will be no quitting...cant say that about Wlad. Marciano, Louis, Dempsey and Ali all knock him out.

[Seamus]

Originally Posted by HOUDINI

I want to hear about how Wlad is a gutless cowardly walking statue with no skills, heart, chin or footwork. Just one more time.

Wlad was Koed THREE times by nobodies. Yet he beats one of boxings all time greats with ease? Marciano proved himself that he can take a horrible beating, horrible injuries and not for a second does he give up. Wlad...hit him, hurt him, bring him to the brink...and he drowns...not once but three times. Wlad if he does bring Rocky to the brink there will be no quitting...cant say that about Wlad. Marciano, Louis, Dempsey and Ali all knock him out.

I want to hear you come up with an original thought that isn't totally ****ing asinine and which you don't repeat ad nauseum.

It's apparent from your posts that one of three things are occurring here: you don't shit about boxing, you have not critically watched a Wladmir Klitschko fight since 2004, or you are a troll.