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Old 03-12-2013, 09:43 AM   #1261
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Nobody ever said Rocky wasn't also hurting in there. He got fouled too.

But he also spoon fed his forehead to Walcott quite a bit. It was rough and tumble in there. If a referee is going to allow Rocky to abuse somebody like that, and be called "fair and neutral"(I'm gonna simply call that lax officiating, or letting the fighters fight), he's gonna let Wlad clutch to his hearts' content. No sane referee I've ever met is gonna scold or deduct a guy for holding and let the other guy butt, elbow, low blow, and all that **** in the same vein. It'd be a one way ticket to a protest, and **** like that DOES get overturned in this sport.

Of course, you could also be that guy in Ottke-Reid, who penalized Reid for punching Ottke in the face, but I think we're assuming that guy ISN'T in the ring for this one, and if he was, he'd probably favor Wlad (European).
Rocky didn't abuse anybody unless they did to him first.....He was concerned for the saftey of every fighter he faced and always genuinely wished them the best of luck before a fight.......He didn't train like a Spartan and put in more prep than anybody else just to have the intention of winning by foul............That being said if you lowballed him he'd rightfully get you back and if Wlad wants to try hug him to death Rock will make him pay the price 100% with a barrage of endless power shots the like of which he's never felt.......You have to of experienced the pain of liver shots to know what a game changer they are and all it takes his one.........They will sap his engery and without his power he might as well quit on his stool if he managed escaped a ko in the first few rounds.

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Old 03-12-2013, 09:54 AM   #1262
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Rocky didn't abuse anybody unless they did to him first.....He was concerned for the saftey of every fighter he faced and always genuinely wished them the best of luck before a fight.......He didn't train like a Spartan and put in more prep than anybody else just to have the intention of winning by foul............That being said if you lowballed him he'd rightfully get you back and if Wlad wants to try hug him to death Rock will make him pay the price 100% with a barrage of endless power shots the like of which he's never felt.......You have to of experienced the pain of liver shots to know what a game changer they are and all it takes his one.........They will sap his engery and without his power he might as well quit on his stoll if he managed escaped a ko in the first few rounds.
i have and i know. and i still don't think rocky lands it
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:06 AM   #1263
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:50 AM   #1264
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Wladimir has to wear his opponents down or they quit on him because they cant cope for his power to be effective. He wouldn't wear Rock down(Joe Louis nails him right on the chin) his constant moving,hard punching,superior footwork(Wlad has never fought a man who was capable of launching himself from a squat crouch). Rocky is the superior fighter who are you kidding? Size?? He was outweighed by most of his opponents. He fought tougher competition who despite taking a beating never once quit because of it.
Ibragimov, Chagaev and Haye were all capable of launching themselves from a crouch. Brewster and even Peter were capable of throwing leaping hooks with plenty of mus**** on them.

Rocky's left was surprisingly fast for a man so generally lacking in speed, but it wasn't anything that Wlad hadn't seen before. It was also a very short shot, and those can be difficult to land flush against men substantially taller than yourself.

Whilst there's definitely a mental aspect to Wlad's wearing down tactics, there's a physical aspect as well. And a man of Rocky's size and hittability (relative to Wlad's accuracy I mean) would be shipping major punishment on a consistent basis for many rounds. There's nothing to suggest that he holds up to such punishment without going down at some point. Rocky could be hurt, he could be dropped. On every occasion he was to pull the cat out of the bag, but to say he would do so against a fighter of Wlad's size and skill level is a rather bold gamble.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:32 AM   #1265
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:35 AM   #1266
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:44 AM   #1267
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I gassed about 20 pages ago.
only 3 more pages man, "you're blowin it son...you're blowin it!"
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:54 AM   #1268
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I gassed about 20 pages ago.
Don't go all Wlad/Purrity on us now.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:07 PM   #1269
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I do want to congratulate Dinovelvet for having p4p the strongest chin ever
he's like george chuvalo in this thread...it's gonna take his wife screaming at the ref to end it
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:09 PM   #1270
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Rocky didn't abuse anybody unless they did to him first.....He was concerned for the saftey of every fighter he faced and always genuinely wished them the best of luck before a fight.......He didn't train like a Spartan and put in more prep than anybody else just to have the intention of winning by foul............That being said if you lowballed him he'd rightfully get you back and if Wlad wants to try hug him to death Rock will make him pay the price 100% with a barrage of endless power shots the like of which he's never felt.......You have to of experienced the pain of liver shots to know what a game changer they are and all it takes his one.........They will sap his engery and without his power he might as well quit on his stool if he managed escaped a ko in the first few rounds.
Even by your standards this is a load of ****.

So the dozen headbutts Marciano landed on Walcott were in retaliation for what? And that left hook he landed as Walcott as he hung lifelessly on the ropes was launched in the interest of Joe's safety? And the dozens of elbows, low blows and rabbit punches ****ell absorbed?

Here is Marciano displaying his interest in Joe's safety...

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I don't even begrudge Marciano for the dirty stuff. It's part of the game. But he will be getting back more in spades from the much, much larger, stronger better athlete and better boxer in Klitschko.

I'm sorry, throw the size argument out of the window, Klitschko is still the better and more accomplished boxer. He wins this match-up on every conceivable level.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:30 PM   #1271
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at Dino explaining a liver shot to magna.
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:36 PM   #1272
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I can't keep it up, man. All youse will have to fight the good fight without me.

And yeah, dinovelvet has an extreme chin. Like if McCall, LaMotta and Chuvalo had a child, it would be dinovelvet's ability to absorb punches.
we will drag you with us you son of a *****... I'll go all Teddy Atlas on you. " think about your kids, think about your future. there comes a time in every man's life where you have say to dino...you sir are an idiot. that time is now!"
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:24 PM   #1273
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Rock's wild swings were a product of him wanting to be a baseball player. He'd swing at opponents like he was trying for a homerun. If somebody was cought by an elbow or rabbit punch it was purely accidental and came the territory of fighting a brawler.

Wlad is an atlethe, a business man and somewhere way down the line he's a fighter. The blueprint on how to beat him is by taking him into the trenches and Rock brought his opponents through a never ending hell. Being slow on his feet is also a myth as nobody could ever get away from him. Even the elusive and slick Walcot couldn't evade him when Rock had sight in only one eye.
Its not wise to back a man who has proven to fall apart under attrition and against lesser fighters than Marciano. Rock brings devastatingly brutal power shots to where he is most vulnerable and there wont be any let up in pace.

In this video Rock hit Walcot so hard you can clearly hear the bang coming from a time when the microphones were so poor all that was heard was the cheering crowds.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:51 PM   #1274
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Rock's wild swings were a product of him wanting to be a baseball player. He'd swing at opponents like he was trying for a homerun. If somebody was cought by an elbow or rabbit punch it was purely accidental and came the territory of fighting a brawler.

Wlad is an atlethe, a business man and somewhere way down the line he's a fighter. The blueprint on how to beat him is by taking him into the trenches and Rock brought his opponents through a never ending hell. Being slow on his feet is also a myth as nobody could ever get away from him. Even the elusive and slick Walcot couldn't evade him when Rock had sight in only one eye.
Its not wise to back a man who has proven to fall apart under attrition and against lesser fighters than Marciano. Rock brings devastatingly brutal power shots to where he is most vulnerable and there wont be any let up in pace.

In this video Rock hit Walcot so hard you can clearly hear the bang coming from a time when the microphones were so poor all that was heard was the cheering crowds.
BORKED
dino you do bring up some valid points but you seem to be saying that since rocky didn't ever lose that he couldn't ever lose. those are 2 very very different things and just because wlad has lost doesn't mean he would lose
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:39 PM   #1275
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Double bump *****es...road to 100.

Oh and rocky was not fast of foot and wlad is EXTREMELY quick for a man his size
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