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Old 08-23-2009, 10:06 PM   #31
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That's what I was thinking.

Manassa says Robinson isn't top 5 and then presents a huge list of contenders, champions and hall of famers that he beat.
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:11 AM   #32
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I have him at #3 so I disagree with this thread.
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Old 08-24-2009, 09:41 AM   #33
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I have him at #3 so I disagree with this thread.
Didn't read it?
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:08 PM   #34
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I know this thread isn't serious but I think it's arguable that there are 5 other fighters in history who could be ranked above Sugar Ray Robinson.

If someone had Harry Greb, Sam Langford, Benny Leonard, Joe Gans and Henry Armstrong, for example, above Robinson I dont think that would be absurd in the slightest.
I agree that it's not absurd to have Robison outside the top 5, since there just have been so many great fighters. It's a bit far fetched, perhaps, but not absurd.

Nowadays I feel pretty comfortable having him at nr. 1, but Langford and Greb are also good shouts.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:21 PM   #35
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OooooW! I thought we had someone with a pair then.

Alrighty then; Fitzsimmons, Langford, Greb, Wilde and Leonard are all above Robinson p4p, fact.
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Old 08-24-2009, 01:24 PM   #36
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shouldn't that list look more like this at the end?

Randolph Turpin X2
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer x4
Carmen Basilio x2
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:42 PM   #37
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Good thread, i want to say that i think Muhammad Ali's resume is outstanding though. Not to say that he achieved more than those he didn't, purely in terms of resume that is. But like i say, truly outstanding resume, and in terms of maybe not what all would label 'ability', but most definitely what everyone must give their 'effectiveness' stamp to, he is of the highest standard there ever has been, ever.
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Old 08-24-2009, 07:25 PM   #38
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ali is srr light
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Old 08-25-2009, 06:32 PM   #39
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shouldn't that list look more like this at the end?

Randolph Turpin X2
Rocky Graziano
Gene Fullmer x4
Carmen Basilio x2
No. I listed wins, not fights.
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:45 AM   #40
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I have Robinson at #3 now...he's slipping down!!
Let me guess, Burley's moved to #2
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Old 08-26-2009, 08:46 AM   #41
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Let me guess, Burley's moved to #2


Depends on if i'm a) drunk b) half cut or c) hungover.

If i'm a) or c) then he's not #2.
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:24 AM   #42
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I came up with the 'Sugar' moniker, but that's never talked about either.
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Old 08-27-2009, 08:09 AM   #43
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Depends on if i'm a) drunk b) half cut or c) hungover.

If i'm a) or c) then he's not #2.
Hahaha, fair enough mate

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Old 08-27-2009, 01:09 PM   #44
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I personally have Ray at #3, after Armstrong and Greb.
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:13 AM   #45
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I have him at #3 so I disagree with this thread.
Fascinating.
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