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Old 03-02-2010, 08:03 PM   #91
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About half Mundine's oppoents have come off losses Ash.

As for the timing of when Foch and Duddy bouts were, or could have been set - no idea.

You'd have to wonder why Todd would be quoted saying this in a national boxing publication if it wasn't fact.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:03 PM   #92
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...and the answer is????
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:04 PM   #93
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What's the difference between Danny Green's claims of trying to get fights with B-Hop and Tarver and Mundine's claims of trying to get fights with with Pavlik and Sturm?

A: B-Hop and Tarver confirmed in the media that they had actually been in negotiations with Team Green
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:08 PM   #94
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...and the answer is????
Well I guess he doesn't get paid by mundine anymore.....

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What's the difference between Danny Green's claims of trying to get fights with B-Hop and Tarver and Mundine's claims of trying to get fights with with Pavlik and Sturm?

A: B-Hop and Tarver confirmed in the media that they had actually been in negotiations with Team Green
Creepy puppet - being wrong is a trademark of yours. The article mentioning mundine vs pavlik was posted and discussed numerous times.
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:17 PM   #95
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About half Mundine's oppoents have come off losses Ash.

As for the timing of when Foch and Duddy bouts were, or could have been set - no idea.

You'd have to wonder why Todd would be quoted saying this in a national boxing publication if it wasn't fact.

Thats why I said why has this just come out now?

No way the Froch fight was proposed in the last 6 months....so why say it now
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:26 PM   #96
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About half Mundine's oppoents have come off losses Ash.....

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Only 1 of Mundines oppoents has come off a loss in his last 15 fights.....and that was a loss to Mads Larsen

Dont think its fair to make this point mate....you must be looking at Mundines first 15 fights
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Old 03-02-2010, 08:30 PM   #97
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Only 1 of Mundines oppoents has come off a loss in his last 15 fights.....and that was a loss to Mads Larsen

Dont think its fair to make this point mate....you must be looking at Mundines first 15 fights
The original statement is correct Ash....but if you want to disect it, yes they were mainly in the first half of his career.
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The original statement is correct Ash....but if you want to disect it, yes they were mainly in the first half of his career.

All I was saying is Mundine wont fight anybody coming off a loss as its bad for publicity.....the first half of his career is different of course

But anyway...back to the point at hand...when do you think the Froch fight was set for?

Do you have anything further from the article?

I just don't see why Mundine would fight Duddy coming off a loss and don't see how a fight with Froch could have been planned after August September last year....so why come out with it 7 months later

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Thats why I said why has this just come out now?

No way the Froch fight was proposed in the last 6 months....so why say it now
The context of the question 'World of Boxing' put to Todd and others was their prediction for Green v Mundine II.

I guess Todd is alluding to Mundine's easy path and that there was nothing stopping him challenging himself more by fighting say a Duddy, instead of a Falliga.

Incidentally, Todd predicted Green by TKO, and of the 15 views they sought (inc Sam Soliman, Charkey Ramon, Jeff Malcolm etc) the breakdown was:

Green to win:
10 votes (9 said by KO and 1 by Pts).

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Mundine to win:
5 votes (and all predicted by Pts).

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Its v.misleading, whats the guys agenda he should post the full facts. Boxing is his job. Neither fight would have been for mega bucks and if the fight wasnt in australia then its not attractive and duddy and froch are hardly the best.
Of course it wouldn't have been for mega bucks, Mandy can't pull mega bucks.

And why isn't it attractive if outside of OZ, oh that's right because he can't pull the big $$.
But wouldn't a fight like that help him secure bigger fights outside of OZ, with more money (if of course he won). Gee, now that's too ****en logical.

BTW, Froch is top 10, and Duddy is a whole lot better than Argie cabbies.
You don't have much of an idea eh.....
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The context of the question 'World of Boxing' put to Todd and others was their prediction for Green v Mundine II.

I guess Todd is alluding to Mundine's easy path and that there was nothing stopping him challenging himself more by fighting say a Duddy, instead of a Falliga.

Incidentally, Todd predicted Green by TKO, and of the 15 views they sought (inc Sam Soliman, Charkey Ramon, Jeff Malcolm etc) the breakdown was:

Green to win:
10 votes (9 said by KO and 1 by Pts).

versus

Mundine to win:
5 votes (and all predicted by Pts).

Ok now I understand a bit more

And yes the Falinga fight sucked
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Old 03-02-2010, 09:15 PM   #102
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Of course it wouldn't have been for mega bucks, Mandy can't pull mega bucks.

And why isn't it attractive if outside of OZ, oh that's right because he can't pull the big $$.
But wouldn't a fight like that help him secure bigger fights outside of OZ, with more money (if of course he won). Gee, now that's too ****en logical.

BTW, Froch is top 10, and Duddy is a whole lot better than Argie cabbies.
You don't have much of an idea eh.....
Mundine makes more in oz than he would fighting abroad and it would be his promotion.

Fighting duddy obviously leads to more recognition but like ashley said lyell was a better option especially when he has designs on pavlik.

Froch is in a different weight class and if u think duddy beats "the man" or even runs him close then you need a check up

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...Fighting duddy obviously leads to more recognition but like ashley said lyell was a better option especially when he has designs on pavlik.

Fact is he didn't fight Duddy or Lyell, he fought Falliga, and he's no closer to Pavlik as a result, probably further away!

Froch is in a different weight class

Fighting at light heavy (probably for the cruiser belt) won't keep Mundine away from Green v Mundine II. Super middle would probably be Mundine's most ideal body weight.

Who knows why he's yo-yoing up and down divisions - pioneering?? - but for what gain??

and if u think duddy beats "the man" or even runs him close then you need a check up

Why not fight him then?? What did he gain out of fighting Falliga other than a few more months on his age?? At least people overseas know who Duddy is, even if he might have been coming off a loss.

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See comments above.
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Mundine makes more in oz than he would fighting abroad and it would be his promotion.
Yes, we know that. But as I said, shouldn't it be more about fighting better fighters, rather than money? I mean he claims he is the best, man.

Fighting duddy obviously leads to more recognition but like ashley said lyell was a better option especially when he has designs on pavlik.
But he fought Falliga?
Mandy has no designs on Pavlik.

Froch is in a different weight class
Pfffft, anyone who is a threat is in a different weight class according to the man.
And Froch is not in a different weight class anyway, if you go by what weight Mandy has fought at for the majority of his career.
The entire swapping weight classes is a joke and you know it.


and if u think duddy beats "the man" or even runs him close then you need a check up
I didn't say either way. My point was, it would have given him more recognition.
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Old 03-02-2010, 10:07 PM   #105
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I don't mind going back and forth with you guys on the pros and cons of mundine but the way you both have posted your counter points means i cant quote you properly. Nevertheless:

Froch was not a worthwhile fight prior to getting the wbc title and even then mundine was on his way down in weight so we can ignore the froch angle.

Everyone knows falliga was a shit fight both in terms of opponent and spectacle, however his previous fight had been a war, he was limping about the ring and I can understand a gimme fight also it was billed as the road to the rematch. I wish he had fought lyell just to get at pavlik, who he does have plans for, I reckon hbo pressured kp to fight martinez if not williams.

As far as the mundine weight issue goes he's a middleweight now like it or not, he's been a titlist at the weight. If he drops to 154 I hope he uses the pioneer name as it would go down a storm with boxing fans

We all know he has to step it up in terms of named opponents, I think "the man" wants to (see medley pf interview) aswell. But what boxing fans often neglect to think about is that his job is boxing and boxing is business.

The green fight will happen after the man has a better bargaining position than green but it's been done to death in the last month already.

If I've left anything out I'll add tomorrow its too late here now.

Also mundine is the best
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