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Old 09-18-2007, 03:32 AM   #1
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Default Ike Williams vs. Carlos Ortiz

Who wins at 135 lbs and why?
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:42 AM   #2
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Ortiz. He's a lot better. Williams could punch, but against a fighter of Ortiz's calibre, he would fold.
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Old 09-18-2007, 06:34 AM   #3
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Who wins at 135 lbs and why?
Ike for me,but it would be a classic,both complete fighters.
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Old 09-18-2007, 01:51 PM   #4
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I would say Ike he was the Shane Mosley of his time with speed and power.
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Old 09-18-2007, 02:22 PM   #5
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Ike by late stoppage.
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Old 09-19-2007, 01:30 AM   #6
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It's clear you haven't studied either the record or the tape. Ortiz was in a different class than Williams.
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Old 09-19-2007, 05:13 AM   #7
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I wouldn´t call Street Lethal indirectly stupid, only because he says that Ortiz was in another class. Ortiz was very consistent and beat the better fighters, and he had no real weaknesses...
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:35 PM   #8
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Ortiz. He's a lot better. Williams could punch, but against a fighter of Ortiz's calibre, he would fold.
Ike Williams all the way.
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I wouldn´t call Street Lethal indirectly stupid, only because he says that Ortiz was in another class. Ortiz was very consistent and beat the better fighters, and he had no real weaknesses...
And Williams had lots of weakness and had the shit beat out of him several times on account of them. He couldn't take to the head or the body. Ortiz would have administered a severe beating to Williams. People are way overestimating Williams' chances here, to the point of absurity, to be honest about things.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:11 PM   #10
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Ortiz beat the better fighters and he was more consistent, ortiz ud.
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