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Old 09-13-2007, 09:47 PM   #16
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He gets by with SD/Uds against halfway good competition. Fighters who had sh*tty losing records are mostly the ones he scored (T)KO's...
Overrated by who? Please don't tell me just by people on this board.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:57 PM   #17
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SD or not, Guzman clearly beat Barrios
Yup. I had it 8-4. One judge had to have been scoring on aggressiveness alone because Guzman dominated.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:04 PM   #18
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I had it a shut-out.

Guzman would also beat up Willie Pep.
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:05 PM   #19
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Arce called Pac out also... So what is your point?
The point is Pac is too chicken shit to take up the challenge and would rather fight people he's already beaten instead of getting in the ring with a man (Guzman) he knows would give him the kind of problems he's never faced before, even his own trainer Freddy 'the joke' Roach has admitted Pac doesn't want none of Guzzy .
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:09 AM   #20
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The point is Pac is too chicken shit to take up the challenge and would rather fight people he's already beaten instead of getting in the ring with a man (Guzman) he knows would give him the kind of problems he's never faced before, even his own trainer Freddy 'the joke' Roach has admitted Pac doesn't want none of Guzzy .

freddie "the joke" roach?
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:33 AM   #21
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Default Re: Joan Guzman is overrated...

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He gets by with SD/Uds against halfway good competition. Fighters who had sh*tty losing records are mostly the ones he scored (T)KO's...
Over rated? By whom?

He holds a belt and he is undefeated . . . that's all people knows about the guy. Casual boxing fans doesn't even know who this guy is.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:51 AM   #22
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Arce called Pac out also... So what is your point?


Everybody wants to fight Pac just like I would like to fight Pac for $1M.

The question is if they deserve it.

Joan shoud first get by Soto and force a fight with JMM or ValeroŽbefore we can really say that Pac should take the risk of fighting him.
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Old 09-14-2007, 05:57 AM   #23
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Im believe he is to fast and slick for anyone right now
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:22 AM   #24
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Guzman isn't even rated that high in the boxing world, so I disagree that he is overrated. But he is a very good fighter, he needs a mega fight to show out.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:36 AM   #25
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The point is Pac is too chicken shit to take up the challenge and would rather fight people he's already beaten instead of getting in the ring with a man (Guzman) he knows would give him the kind of problems he's never faced before, even his own trainer Freddy 'the joke' Roach has admitted Pac doesn't want none of Guzzy .
If you were in front of me, you would already gotten a foot inside your mouth even before you finsihed that garbage you just posted.
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:19 AM   #26
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Pac TD7 Sanchez
Guzman TKO7 Sanchez

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Old 09-14-2007, 11:51 AM   #27
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I'm still pretty confident that Guzman will be exposed against a top level opponent. He has great defense, and he's extremely quick and can throw little flurries, but he absolutely seems to lack all of the intangibles you want in a fighter - a killer instinct, the ability to steal even rounds, and I also question his heart. Eventually he'll face someone with power and enough quickness to tag him, and he'll wilt like week-old lettuce. I don't know if Soto is that guy - he might not have enough quickness and angles to land cleanly on Guzman - but I'm confident that a Manny Pac or JMM would send him running all night long.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:02 PM   #28
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If you were in front of me, you would already gotten a foot inside your mouth even before you finsihed that garbage you just posted.
Lol at this punk making false threats online, boy i don't play them little kids games!!.. you stupid ass "internet thug" , you ain't built for me FULLSTOP!!,

And i'll repeat what i said just to wind your dumb ass up!!, PAC DOESN'T WANT NONE OF GUZZY AND Roach 'the joke' has said so!!.
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:05 PM   #29
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freddie "the joke" roach?
According to Floyd SR yes sir
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:20 PM   #30
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He gets by with SD/Uds against halfway good competition. Fighters who had sh*tty losing records are mostly the ones he scored (T)KO's...
Boxrec sure is a blast, huh?

Have you actually watched the guy fight and taken his in-ring ability into account before making this statement?
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