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Old 09-03-2009, 06:50 PM   #16
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Azumah Nelson was put in with not just a world champ but an all time great after a handful of fights, and although he lost, you got the impression that bout gave him the experience and composure of about 100 'normal' fights.
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Old 09-03-2009, 06:54 PM   #17
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Azumah Nelson was put in with not just a world champ but an all time great after a handful of fights, and although he lost, you got the impression that bout gave him the experience and composure of about 100 'normal' fights.
Oh man how could I overlook that one! Excellent call. It certainly didnt do Nelson any harm in the long run, he went on to become a legend
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:00 PM   #18
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How about Leon Spinks he had about 7 fights and then beat Ali to claim the title, however what happened to him after that? Check the losses, why did he lose so many after that?

It all depends on the class of the fighter. Azumah nelson gave Salvador Sanchez the fight of his life in his 14th fight, got stopped learnt from it and went on to become a great.
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:30 PM   #19
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It all depends on the class of the fighter. Azumah nelson gave Salvador Sanchez the fight of his life in his 14th fight, got stopped learnt from it and went on to become a great.
Yeah, I hear you. Nelson was special.
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:39 PM   #20
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Rademacher deserves a shout:

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I dount any boxer can top his first professional fight.

Well I'm feeling quite smug......obviously this fighter didn't have less than 0 fights because that would be impossible. However this guy wasn't an Olympic champion nor had the amazing amateur pedigree of Rademacher.

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Now what makes it even better, is that in this vacant title fight in which a fighter making his professional debut is involved the reason why the last champion was stripped [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


Ah the boxing World, where nothing has to make sense.....just money.
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:45 PM   #21
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Did Floyd Patterson not fight the olympic gold medalist in his pro debut for the title?
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:55 PM   #22
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Jeff Fenech won the IBF title in his 7th fight, although the IBF was a new organisation at the time so the belt didn't mean much.
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Old 09-03-2009, 08:15 PM   #23
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Well I'm feeling quite smug......obviously this fighter didn't have less than 0 fights because that would be impossible. However this guy wasn't an Olympic champion nor had the amazing amateur pedigree of Rademacher.

I give you [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Now what makes it even better, is that in this vacant title fight in which a fighter making his professional debut is involved the reason why the last champion was stripped [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


Ah the boxing World, where nothing has to make sense.....just money.


Trust you ya wee bollox to pull that one! Quality, you are on a roll. I liked your post on boxrec too.
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Old 09-03-2009, 09:17 PM   #24
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i think it was a bit to early for berto

and although neon leon won the title it really had an adverse effect on his career, he thought he'd arrived before he was ready and so proceded to drink st louis dry

edit: beat me to it
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:04 PM   #25
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Didn't Marvis Frazier end up getting pitched in with Larry Holmes after 10 fights or something? That was some ****ing hiding he got.

Although, as distinctly average as Marvis was, it should be noted he only lost 2 fights in his pro career and they were to Holmes and Tyson. If you're going to lose then why not lose to two of the best of all time (and yes Holmes is up there in the mix for top 10 ATG Heavyweights1).

Sure won't Wicky trot out the old line 'My only two losses were to Hall of Fame fighters' to prove how great his career was
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:12 AM   #26
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Davey Moore won his WBA Lt/Middleweight Title in his 9th fight, 3 defences then thought he was ready to take Duran out & ends up being beaten 2 a pulp
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:23 AM   #27
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Didn't Marvis Frazier end up getting pitched in with Larry Holmes after 10 fights or something? That was some ****ing hiding he got.

Although, as distinctly average as Marvis was, it should be noted he only lost 2 fights in his pro career and they were to Holmes and Tyson. If you're going to lose then why not lose to two of the best of all time (and yes Holmes is up there in the mix for top 10 ATG Heavyweights1).

Sure won't Wicky trot out the old line 'My only two losses were to Hall of Fame fighters' to prove how great his career was
Marvis Frazier had a degenerative eye condition at the time that was going to affect/ end his career sooner rather than later, so when when chance of a title shot came up they decided to take it. I don't remember Hatton being involved though...
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