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Old 09-11-2009, 08:04 PM   #61
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I haven't seen the 24/7 for this one, wish we got it over here, would be great i reckon.
Other than that...."incident".. It's really not been that interesting.

You live in London?
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:08 PM   #62
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Here's another nicely written passage from the same book;

(on his death)

''Tributes were paid by Argentine president Carlos Menem, by soccer star Diego Maradona and by the head of the national boxing commission. Perhaps more telling was the tribute by the ordinary people who queued for hours to file past the open coffin in Santa Fe town hall, determined to pay their respects to perhaps the finest fighter ever priduced in South America.''
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:09 PM   #63
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Other than that...."incident".. It's really not been that interesting.

You live in London?
He drank his own piss?

Nar, i live in Liverpool (if you know of it!), are you Los Angeles? just a guess.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:19 PM   #64
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He drank his own piss?

Nar, i live in Liverpool (if you know of it!), are you Los Angeles? just a guess.
That he did.

Oh and i live in Maryland.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:22 PM   #65
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That he did.

Oh and i live in Maryland.
Oh okay. Strange man drinking his own piss, maybe we should all do it if it's the secret to being able to fight like him.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:28 PM   #66
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Oh okay. Strange man drinking his own piss, maybe we should all do it if it's the secret to being able to fight like him.
He said he's done for his last 5 or 6 fights. Brought him luck.

Lyoto Machida does this also (UFC Light-heavyweight Champion).

Maybe there is a hidden power in drinking urine.

But I'll never find out.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:36 PM   #67
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Here's another nicely written passage from the same book;

(on his death)

''Tributes were paid by Argentine president Carlos Menem, by soccer star Diego Maradona and by the head of the national boxing commission. Perhaps more telling was the tribute by the ordinary people who queued for hours to file past the open coffin in Santa Fe town hall, determined to pay their respects to perhaps the finest fighter ever priduced in South America.''
That's another crazy Argentinean I forgot about.
Both greats in their respective sports though.
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Old 09-12-2009, 08:27 AM   #68
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I agree that Monzon is a facinating figure and one that there is a real scarcity of quality material on ... it is very frustrating .. by all accounts he was a very hard, street guy and that never left him. Straight through his championship reign he wqas still getting arrested for street fights. He was a pimp as well. He was arrested over fifty times in his life, many post title victory.

At the few boxing writers dinners he attended American writers told stories of how he spoke to no one but some of the other fighters, literally glaring at the rest. He was a violent man straight through. Monzon's icy demeanor in the ring to me always reflected that like a Liston, he was a true man of the dark side and did not need or feed on playing to the crowd. He went about his business like a hitman.

The only way a true biography of this man will be of any value is if it is written by an Argentinian who knows the land and the culture. Monzon, like Duran, stayed very close to his own. He was a very closed book.
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Interesting thread Teeto. Red Cobra's comments were very insightful and interesting...good read.
Has anyone else noticed the facial similarity between Monzon and Richard Ramirez?
Thanks for thr compliment Fists of Fury...and funny you should mention Richard Ramirez...I was in a book store yesterday afternoon and saw a book with Ramirez on the cover, and I thoght.."wow, he looks like Monzon!!" (lol)...of course Monzon could have made a sock puppet out of Ramirez.
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Old 09-12-2009, 10:44 AM   #70
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In terms of a cold, efficient assassin, Monzon was like a praying mantis.
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:13 AM   #71
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In terms of a cold, efficient assassin, Monzon was like a praying mantis.
you just summed up Monzon perfectly
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Old 09-12-2009, 11:40 AM   #72
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you just summed up Monzon perfectly
Yeah, perfect term.....it's also my term for Bob Foster among the lightheavyweights, but the same could be said for Monzon and the middles. Same cold patience, even more so than Foster, though Foster frontlined more ko power, Monzon was even more relentless in that cold, reptilian way about him. Almost like a constrictor. Animal analogies have always been used..coyotes, panthers, lions, leopards, tigers, well reptiles and preying mantis's work for Monzon.
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Old 09-13-2009, 01:28 PM   #73
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Teeto! Just come across this. madness! lol

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Old 09-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #75
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Yeah, perfect term.....it's also my term for Bob Foster among the lightheavyweights, but the same could be said for Monzon and the middles. Same cold patience, even more so than Foster, though Foster frontlined more ko power, Monzon was even more relentless in that cold, reptilian way about him. Almost like a constrictor. Animal analogies have always been used..coyotes, panthers, lions, leopards, tigers, well reptiles and preying mantis's work for Monzon.
nah a praying mantis is perfect for Monzon.

Carlos 'The Praying Mantis' Monzon got a real ring to it.
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