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View Poll Results: who was the biggest fraud in boxing
Sven Ottke 22 53.66%
John Ruiz 9 21.95%
Equally shit 10 24.39%
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:07 AM   #16
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Default Re: Who was the biggest fraud between ottke and ruiz?

That being said out of those two Ottke probably is the biggest fraud, but there a lot more who are way more fraudulistic.

Ruiz at least took on some dangerous fighters and came back to be a two time titlist.
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:18 AM   #17
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i disagree scar, ruiz was shit propped up by don king to keep his hold on the hvy weight title scene. fraudely (god bless his soul) was a fraud too, but not to the extent of ruiz who personified everything wrong/corrupt in boxing

Say what you will about Ruiz, but surely you'll agree that his trainer, Stoney was the greatest trainer of all time !
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:19 AM   #18
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Ottke's record is grossly padded, but at least he could fight a bit. And let's not forget, he starched the annoying Mundine!

Ruiz is the DEFINTION of a FRAUD - a talentless fighter who would never have come close to winning a fight at the world class level if it wasn't for Don King. He is the POSTER BOY for boxing corruption!
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:12 AM   #19
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Sven Ottke? A super middleweight who dosent fight out of his country, defended his title 20 something times against fringe contenders and was overhyped and overrated and only really loved by his countrymen? man its a good thing theres nobody like that out there today.....
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:46 AM   #20
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And let's not forget, he starched the annoying Mundine!
That's a very good point, but Ottke also had a style so negative that you needed imaginary numbers to calculate it.
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