Should've Lennox gave Vitali a rematch?

[Boro chris]

Originally Posted by Rosseboi

The fact we're still debating / discussing / arguing this all these years on proves one things though: Not having the rematch has hurt Lewis's longterm standing.

It shouldn't do to anyone objective.

[The Exile]

Originally Posted by boxinghusky

how the the heck is that, by getting knocked down 4 times then knocked out ,
i would think you were taking about Rock , but still that not the answer, no it was Travis Walker that put Vitali into retirement ,knocking him down in sparing less than 2 weeks before the fight with Rock and messing up his knee after Vitali hit the mat. Vitali Klitschko win be champion again ,early 08 the Champ returns

It was a joke.


Vitali did not send Lewis into retirement. Lewis beat Vitali!!!!!! Its not as if he was ko'd into retirement was it. He realised he was not the fighter he once was and didnt want to tarnish his legacy like so many have done before him.

He should be applauded for this rather than ending up like Tyson, Holy, Bowe from recent years who get beat up by guys who wouldnt have been competitive sparring partners in there prime.


Danny Williams took all the fight out of Vitali

[The Exile]

Originally Posted by boxinghusky

Lennox got lucky and opened a cut in a fight that he was losing ,they should change the rules on that ,if a fighter is ahead in the fight and gets cut by a punch and the fight gets stopped it should be a no decision, if the guy is down on the cards a TKO ,a fight getting stopped when a fighter has not been knocked down or taking a lot of Punch's ,just getting stopped cause of a cut should not cause him to lose if he was winning to that point. just a idea

Lennox Lewis will never fight Vitali Klitschko again ,no matter the cash amount ,he Retired to avoid being beat by a man he knew he could not knock down or out and he did not want to take the amount of shots he would have to take to have a chance of winning a fight with Vitali ,so he chose to retire ,cause he did not have enough heart to take a beating to win .
Vitali Klitschko will comeback and be Champion again, Lennox will not and did not retire a Champion cause there was a man he knew could beat him and he chose to go and run away.

Are you having a laugh or what!!!

Lewis retired undisputed champion. FACT.

Vitali retired without a single win over a number 1 contender. FACT.

There resume's are not even comparable. FACT.

[standing 8]

Originally Posted by boxinghusky

Lennox got lucky and opened a cut in a fight that he was losing ,they should change the rules on that ,if a fighter is ahead in the fight and gets cut by a punch and the fight gets stopped it should be a no decision, if the guy is down on the cards a TKO ,a fight getting stopped when a fighter has not been knocked down or taking a lot of Punch's ,just getting stopped cause of a cut should not cause him to lose if he was winning to that point. just a idea

I think that would be bad for the sport. A fight being stopped because of cuts caused by being hit cleanly is totally different from a stoppage caused by a clash of heads.

[TanstA]

People think it's that easy. Were you guys in the ring?
It was probably hell for Lewis. The whole fight he was eating shots from Dr.Steelhammers brother. 6 Rounds of that is enough. Lewis made a smart decision.

[mykolakozak]

One, stop with the Lewis made Vitalis face look like he went head first into a truck. Get a mirror, a razor, and cut your upper eye lid. Then give it 30 seconds, take a picture, and compare it to Vitali. Lewis cut his skin on an eye lid thats why his face looked so messed up. If Vitali was black and Lennox was white this would be a different story. Many boxing and fight doctors, not at all racist, have speculated tons of times, the white skin cuts much easier than the black skin. And also, a bruise can be clearly seen on a white skin, not as well on a dark skin. Its no prejudice, its the truth. I have a skin issue where I scratch a little too hard and for a while my skin puffs up a little. And this is similar between the two races fighting. If Vitali got slammed with a hammer and Lennox the same way, Vitali would look much worst. So please stop talking about him looking so bad.

[The Exile]

Originally Posted by boxinghusky

Vitali Klitschko retired Ring Champion . Fact

Lennox retired cause No HEART! Fact

Name 1 top contender Vitali beat.

[mykolakozak]

Two, everyone talks about Lennox improving in the last rounds. Lennox lost round 5 and 6. And it was not Vitali who stumbled to his chair but Lennox who when the 6th finished did a 180 throwing his whole weight to the chair. Jim Lampley sais something like "oh Lennox is barely holding on to his feet falling to the chair" Vitali was much more agrresive in the last round, its just that it ended with lennox locking Vitali with two hands and dragging him to the other side of the ring.

[ZabKlitschko]

Originally Posted by FloydP4PChump

For what? Vitali looked like he ran face first into a semi-truck after their first encounter. Imagine if Lennox had been in shape.

That's such a fucking stupid analogy.

Nobody but the doctor stopped Klitschko that night.

Yeah, it would have been stupid for him to have continued. But if it had gone on -- Klitschko had won the fight and ended up retiring regardless because Lewis did too much damage, he would have been a bigger legend than if he had beat Lewis easily and gone on to fight a series of bums.

Lewis didn't beat Klitschko that night. Klitschko had the will to go on. And the will to settle it all in a rematch.

LEWIS DIDN'T HAVE THAT WILL.

So who wins in turn? Klitschko.

H-E-A-R-T.

Lennox retired because he knew he had nothing left .. and if he did, his ego would have propelled him to show it.

Originally Posted by The Exile

Name 1 top contender Vitali beat.

Herbie Hide; Corrie Sanders.

[The Exile]

Originally Posted by mykolakozak

One, stop with the Lewis made Vitalis face look like he went head first into a truck. Get a mirror, a razor, and cut your upper eye lid. Then give it 30 seconds, take a picture, and compare it to Vitali. Lewis cut his skin on an eye lid thats why his face looked so messed up. If Vitali was black and Lennox was white this would be a different story. Many boxing and fight doctors, not at all racist, have speculated tons of times, the white skin cuts much easier than the black skin. And also, a bruise can be clearly seen on a white skin, not as well on a dark skin. Its no prejudice, its the truth. I have a skin issue where I scratch a little too hard and for a while my skin puffs up a little. And this is similar between the two races fighting. If Vitali got slammed with a hammer and Lennox the same way, Vitali would look much worst. So please stop talking about him looking so bad.

I suppose he should have been allowed to continue.



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[The Exile]

Originally Posted by ZabKlitschko

That's such a fucking stupid analogy.

Nobody but the doctor stopped Klitschko that night.

Yeah, it would have been stupid for him to have continued. But if it had gone on -- Klitschko had won the fight and ended up retiring regardless because Lewis did too much damage, he would have been a bigger legend than if he had beat Lewis easily and gone on to fight a series of bums.

Lewis didn't beat Klitschko that night. Klitschko had the will to go on. And the will to settle it all in a rematch.

LEWIS DIDN'T HAVE THAT WILL.

So who wins in turn? Klitschko.

H-E-A-R-T.

Lennox retired because he knew he had nothing left .. and if he did, his ego would have propelled him to show it.



Herbie Hide; Corrie Sanders.

I said No1 contender.

Herbie Hide was a top 10 contender at best and has a chin with more glass than Wladimir.

Corrie Sanders was never a No1 contender, he was semi-retired when he beat Wlad. Sure he could hit hard but if those are the best fighters that Vitali beat then you just proved my point - He has never beat a No1 contender


Wlad has a better resume and Lewis's record shits all over Vitali's.

[barneyrub]

Originally Posted by mykolakozak

Two, everyone talks about Lennox improving in the last rounds. Lennox lost round 5 and 6. And it was not Vitali who stumbled to his chair but Lennox who when the 6th finished did a 180 throwing his whole weight to the chair. Jim Lampley sais something like "oh Lennox is barely holding on to his feet falling to the chair" Vitali was much more agrresive in the last round, its just that it ended with lennox locking Vitali with two hands and dragging him to the other side of the ring.

Vitali definatley lost rds 5 and 6. Lewis did alot of damage inthos e2 rds and at the end of rd 6 vitali was out on his feet holding onto lewis to stay up while getting hit and not defending himself.

[JAM Killer]

Lewis didn't run from Vitali, he retired after a very long career, there is a difference.

Let us stop talking about this subject, there are too many good fights coming up to talk about this old shit.

[barneyrub]

Originally Posted by tobkhan

Sure but Vitali gave him one of his toughest fights and was ahead at the cards at the time of the stoppage. Additionally it isn´t like Lewis koed VK but it was a stoppage on cuts. So, for me it´s a win for Lennox but a kind of a bitter win and so a rematch would have been the right thing to do.

vitali was ahead by one rounds difference and if you consider the fact that vitali won the first round which was a nothing affair then that score means little, what means mor eis the state of vitalis face, 2 cuts above the eye, one below the eye and cuts in the lips and mouth.

[barneyrub]

Originally Posted by boxinghusky

Lennox got lucky and opened a cut in a fight that he was losing ,they should change the rules on that ,if a fighter is ahead in the fight and gets cut by a punch and the fight gets stopped it should be a no decision, if the guy is down on the cards a TKO ,a fight getting stopped when a fighter has not been knocked down or taking a lot of Punch's ,just getting stopped cause of a cut should not cause him to lose if he was winning to that point. just a idea

Lennox Lewis will never fight Vitali Klitschko again ,no matter the cash amount ,he Retired to avoid being beat by a man he knew he could not knock down or out and he did not want to take the amount of shots he would have to take to have a chance of winning a fight with Vitali ,so he chose to retire ,cause he did not have enough heart to take a beating to win .
Vitali Klitschko will comeback and be Champion again, Lennox will not and did not retire a Champion cause there was a man he knew could beat him and he chose to go and run away.

Thats the stupidest thing ever posted! By that logic why not make it a rule that if your ahead in a fight then get ko`d then it should be a no decision or go to the scorecards lol, in that case Tua got beat by Rahman, Maskaev, Oquendo also lol.