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Old 09-19-2007, 05:23 AM   #1
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I would like to hear some ****ysis on this fight. I have only seen youtube clips of these fighters and am curious how this one may pan out. It seems to be a pretty good matchup
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Old 09-19-2007, 06:17 AM   #2
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yup, we'll see if berto can justify the hype. estradas a good solid guy, gave a competitive fight against cintron and a good showing against shane. i think bertos a pretty good prospect, but it wont surprise me if estrada upsets him.
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Old 09-19-2007, 08:36 AM   #3
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We're gonna learn a lot about both fighters, especially Berto, no matter the result of this fight.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:35 AM   #4
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In this case, I think Berto's KD against Rivera actually will help him. He'll be more focused and hopefully won't fall asleep as he did in his last fight.

I think Berto fights well and takes care of business.

By the way, I watched his brother fight in MMA recently. Let's just say I hope Andre's training habits are superior to those of his bro.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:00 PM   #5
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In this case, I think Berto's KD against Rivera actually will help him. He'll be more focused and hopefully won't fall asleep as he did in his last fight.

I think Berto fights well and takes care of business.

By the way, I watched his brother fight in MMA recently. Let's just say I hope Andre's training habits are superior to those of his bro.
You would think that his knockdown will help him. He is fun to watch clips of because he is so ferocious, but that could get him in trouble eventually against a good fighter (perhaps Estrada...?). Some of the videos I have seen of Berto remind me of watching Edison Miranda,,,but with more speed and perhaps slightly better skill set.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:01 PM   #6
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I expect a heck of a fight and a dangerous one for Berto. But if he stays smart and keeps his defense tight, I think he can land the cleaner, harder shots and win by a decision or TKO. A nice fight with a hyped prospect....good start to the night of the 29th.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:03 PM   #7
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bertos accident against rivera will make him a little more cautious and i think he will win but with a little more boring of a style than he has been using against his human punching bags lately.


berto dec.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:05 PM   #8
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In this case, I think Berto's KD against Rivera actually will help him. He'll be more focused and hopefully won't fall asleep as he did in his last fight.

I think Berto fights well and takes care of business.

By the way, I watched his brother fight in MMA recently. Let's just say I hope Andre's training habits are superior to those of his bro.
Agreed, he was stalking a little carelessly when he got knocked down - he probably would have lost by TKO had his corner not pulled that glove stunt, but thats another story - I too think he will be more focused and disciplined now. Estrada chin will be soundly tested.
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Estrada isnt the biggest puncher, so I dont think he will particularly test Berto's whiskers. But he will push Andre in just about every other way, Estrada is a no bull **** fighter, he is all round pretty solid for speed, skills, chin and heart. Not a light puncher but doesnt have the one puncher concussive power of Rivera, no way.

Berto is not like Miranda IMO, he can actully box and is quite the opposite physically. He is short and stocky, rather than tall and with long arms.
The only similarity I can see is they are both aggressive and have really dark skin.
I like the Lacy comparison more, though he isnt exactly like Jeff either. But at this stage of his career compared to where Lacy was at, at the same stage. you can see similarities between them.
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Old 09-19-2007, 10:19 PM   #10
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Estrada isnt the biggest puncher, so I dont think he will particularly test Berto's whiskers. But he will push Andre in just about every other way, Estrada is a no bull **** fighter, he is all round pretty solid for speed, skills, chin and heart. Not a light puncher but doesnt have the one puncher concussive power of Rivera, no way.

Berto is not like Miranda IMO, he can actully box and is quite the opposite physically. He is short and stocky, rather than tall and with long arms.
The only similarity I can see is they are both aggressive and have really dark skin.
I like the Lacy comparison more, though he isnt exactly like Jeff either. But at this stage of his career compared to where Lacy was at, at the same stage. you can see similarities between them.
I see definite similarities between Berto and Lacy, although I think Andre has the potential to become more versatile, if not quite as tough.

At the same stage, I'd give the edge to Lacy in chin and sheer strength, while Berto possesses the faster hands and more fluid combinations.
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I see definite similarities between Berto and Lacy, although I think Andre has the potential to become more versatile, if not quite as tough.

At the same stage, I'd give the edge to Lacy in chin and sheer strength, while Berto possesses the faster hands and more fluid combinations.
I agree, its clear Berto does not have Lacy's chin.
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You would think that his knockdown will help him. He is fun to watch clips of because he is so ferocious, but that could get him in trouble eventually against a good fighter (perhaps Estrada...?). Some of the videos I have seen of Berto remind me of watching Edison Miranda,,,but with more speed and perhaps slightly better skill set.
Totally different to Miranda. Miranda is a sloppy power puncher, who relies HEAVILY on his natural intangibles to get him by. Berto is a class amatuer who can be slightly unorthadox at times, but can definitely both box and punch. He has good hand speed, good power, but still needs to refine his game at the moment. Much like a younger Miguel Cotto did. I still believe Berto is a solid propsect, although this fight is going to be a very important one for him, and an excellent guage.
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