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Old 09-19-2009, 07:25 PM   #16
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But other myth is the Ross was never floor myth that Bert keeps bringing up.

Ross was down a few times, but never ko in over 80 fights.
First thing that came to my mind when I saw this thread.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:29 PM   #17
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No he dosent
Shit, I could have sworn he did.

Maybe he's in the Honorable Mention section.

Along with Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Twice.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:30 PM   #18
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Shit, I could have sworn he did.

Maybe he's in the Honorable Mention section.

Along with Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Twice.
This is correct
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:16 PM   #19
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The Rocky Marciano nose cement thing on Ringside, The fight footage shows pretty well how they delt with the cut, by putting a endless supplie of guards in the Rock's nose.

Than Ringside, Bert forgets about the guards and says hey, they put fast drying cemate in the cut.

Yeah right.
The NY times reporter said this I thought, didn't he? Bill Gallo?
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:36 PM   #20
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The Rocky Marciano nose cement thing on Ringside, The fight footage shows pretty well how they delt with the cut, by putting a endless supplie of guards in the Rock's nose.

Than Ringside, Bert forgets about the guards and says hey, they put fast drying cement in the cut.

Yeah right.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:16 PM   #21
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The NY times reporter said this I thought, didn't he? Bill Gallo?
Yes, I've seen Gallo repeat that story in his more recent articles.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:02 AM   #22
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Gallo is just as bad imo.

The fight film shows other wise.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:16 AM   #23
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Sugars been around the fight game a long time, he might exagerate a few things but I think he's one of the few old time characters left in the sport.
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Old 09-20-2009, 10:19 AM   #24
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He claims that when Tyson and Spinks where in their neighboring dressing rooms before the fight, Tyson punched through the wall and his fist went right under Spinks' nose on the other side.

Tyson may have punched the wall, but it's a classic example of adding a whole lot of extra details to make it a good story.
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Old 09-20-2009, 10:24 AM   #25
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He claims that when Tyson and Spinks where in their neighboring dressing rooms before the fight, Tyson punched through the wall and his fist went right under Spinks' nose on the other side.

Tyson may have punched the wall, but it's a classic example of adding a whole lot of extra details to make it a good story.
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Old 09-20-2009, 10:33 AM   #26
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Tyson did punch holes in the wall for the fight,

But he didnt punch though the wall,(Much less almost hitting Spinks in the nose. ete)

There is still a lot of wall bettween Tyson's locker room, and Spinks locker room, but I dont think there locker rooms were relly right next to each other. Perhaps, I never been there.
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Old 09-20-2009, 01:44 PM   #27
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Bert Sugar keeps bragging about how he was in the ring sparring with Muhammad Ali ( at the time Cassius Clay)? Is this true, or just a story to give him more Boxing Credibility?
There IS a photo of Sugar sparring with the greatest, and Burt is fighting out of a southpaw stance.
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Old 09-21-2009, 06:15 PM   #28
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There IS a photo of Sugar sparring with the greatest, and Burt is fighting out of a southpaw stance.
Cutos to him for parlaying his "Sugar Coated" stories into a thriving business career over all these years. I like boxing but I can't see myself making a red cent from the business angle of boxing. Those old school writers literarilly could get away with murder by over-dramatizing actual events. Look at the boxing events that have no film, Firpo-Dempsey is one of the most over-dramatized boxing matches of all time because there is no video evidence. It leaves the reader imagining the action as described by the writer- I am sure everyone has a different picture of this fight in their head of Firpo sending Dempsey out of the ring. In Baseball there is no video of Babe Ruth calling his shot in Chicago, and it is the single most written about (over-dramatized) event in baseball. Burt Sugar continues in this veign of over-dramatization following his mentors and probably says "screw it" when the video evidence says otherwise. "Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story"
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:09 PM   #29
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There is footage of the Dempsey-Firpo match. I actually saw it. I'm sure many others here have to.
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Look at the boxing events that have no film, Firpo-Dempsey is one of the most over-dramatized boxing matches of all time because there is no video evidence. It leaves the reader imagining the action as described by the writer"
Firpo-Dempsey is on youtube
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