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Old 09-16-2007, 08:46 PM   #1
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Default HW division better now or in the 90s

The Heavywieght division was at one time respected but now it seems to be more of a joke among the boxing experts. Is it the fact that the title changes hands so much anymore or is it that theres no premier american heavywieghts to cheer for. What made the 90s so much more exciting than now?
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:49 PM   #2
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The division is weak now.

There are no fighters as good as Lewis, Bowe, Hollyfield and even 90's Tyson would probably be undisputed no.1 now. He'd certainly be carrying as many straps as politics would allow.
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:52 PM   #3
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In the 90's you had a unified champion - until Bowe threw 2 belts in the can rather than face a fighter who defeated him in the Olympics named Lennox Lewis.

Then Lewis did his part to split the belts by taking step aside money from Don King so he wouldn't have to fight Byrd if I'm not mistaken.

Talent wise it's hard to judge today's HW's until they're retired. Many boxing fans hated Lewis until he retired, then they appreciated him. I rather wait for history to judge how strong or weak this current crop of HW's is............................
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:53 PM   #4
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The division is weak now.

There are no fighters as good as Lewis, Bowe, Hollyfield and even 90's Tyson would probably be undisputed no.1 now. He'd certainly be carrying as many straps as politics would allow.
.............and you expect people to take you seriously right?
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:56 PM   #5
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.............and you expect people to take you seriously right?
Your telling me a 90s Tyson wouldnt beat Iggy or Maskaev, these guys would be another warm up fight before he thought Holyfield.
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.............and you expect people to take you seriously right?
Sure. Why not? My posts seem to form a denser core than emoticons/rhetorical (i'm guessing) questions and extended versions of "i don't know" which is the middling standard you've set in this thread.
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Your telling me a 90s Tyson wouldnt beat Iggy or Maskaev, these guys would be another warm up fight before he thought Holyfield.
I don't agree with that - these men would be legitimate challangers. But I do think that Tyson could blow both of those guys up or out.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:03 PM   #8
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I don't agree with that - these men would be legitimate challangers. But I do think that Tyson could blow both of those guys up or out.
Iggy was the same guy that had been knocked down by Ray Austin which the fight itself ended in a draw, Maskaev has been knocked out by guys who possesed average power. These guys are no better than Botha or Bruno.
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Iggy was the same guy that had been knocked down by Ray Austin which the fight itself ended in a draw, Maskaev has been knocked out by guys who possesed average power. These guys are no better than Botha or Bruno.
I think that I would list the something like: Bruno, Maskaev (we'll know more about him pretty soon, but I think he's underated), Iggy, Botha. But it's close. My point was more; the 90's version of Tyson would need to prepare properly for these guys or he could get found out. Treating them as warm ups wouldn't be wise.
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The HW division is pretty weak. And boring.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:11 PM   #11
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Your telling me a 90s Tyson wouldnt beat Iggy or Maskaev, these guys would be another warm up fight before he thought Holyfield.
90's Tyson would probably KO both Maskaev & Ibragimov but they aren't the best beltholders at the moment are they? In fact most people rate Chagaev or Peter number 2 with those guys a distant 4th & 5th.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:12 PM   #12
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Sure. Why not? My posts seem to form a denser core than emoticons/rhetorical (i'm guessing) questions and extended versions of "i don't know" which is the middling standard you've set in this thread.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:12 PM   #13
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The HW division now is a joke. In the 90s we had Lewis, Tyson, Holy and Bowe.

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I think that I would list the something like: Bruno, Maskaev (we'll know more about him pretty soon, but I think he's underated), Iggy, Botha. But it's close. My point was more; the 90's version of Tyson would need to prepare properly for these guys or he could get found out. Treating them as warm ups wouldn't be wise.
I understand point, but if Tyson was properly trained he should have no problem beating both Iggy and Maskaev.
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