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Old 09-07-2007, 08:00 PM   #1
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Default toughest middleweights ever!!!! GRAZIANOVS GREB, KETCHEL VS LAMOTTA

for the toughest man ever in the middleweight div how does it go ?
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:49 PM   #2
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Greb wins. He fought half blind. He never trained just fought all the time. He is said to have fought Mickey Walker in the streets after they were finished with their historic boxing match.
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Old 09-08-2007, 06:06 PM   #3
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Carlos Monzon.
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:56 PM   #4
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Tony Ayala was a definite shoo-in, until......What a shame. I definitely feel he would've been up there.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:07 PM   #5
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Tony Ayala was a definite shoo-in, until......What a shame. I definitely feel he would've been up there.
No he would not, like Tyson, he had a flawed genius. Without the flaws he would not of had the genius; with the flaws he was always going to fail, and in Tyson's case, that is without hindsight, you could see it from 87 onwards ....
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:13 PM   #6
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Ketchel, while lacking traditional boxing skills, was probably one of the toughest mother ****ers to ever fight. That's what made him great, his toughness and ferocity, not to mention punching power.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:36 PM   #7
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Harry Greb, although there are many others worthy of mention and of taking this title....Hagler for instance.
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:52 PM   #8
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Don't forget Steele. He was tough.
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Old 09-15-2007, 06:41 PM   #9
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:34 PM   #10
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When in doubt, go with Greb.
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Old 09-16-2007, 02:45 PM   #11
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Hagler. The man was a tank. Never stopped. Never quit. Never knocked off his feet. He was hit right on the button by two of the biggest punchers in middleweight history and didn't go anywhere.

It's fitting that the greatest middleweight fighter ever was also the toughest son of a ***** ever.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:49 PM   #12
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Zale deserves mentioning.
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Old 09-16-2007, 04:53 PM   #13
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Walker.
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Old 09-16-2007, 05:28 PM   #14
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I would say either Walker or Greb.

If you asked either of them to fight a prime Mike Tyson they would probably agree to do it.

I will also mention Barbados Joe Walcott (not a midleweight). He wanted to fight Jeffries, Sharkey and Hart.
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I will also mention Barbados Joe Walcott (not a midleweight). He wanted to fight Jeffries, Sharkey and Hart.
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