mason vs haye

Mr Butt · 09-22-2009, 05:25 AM

gary mason vs david haye

mason may pull off a win here ,yes he was very slow and his stamina was perhaps questionable but he could take a shot and punch a bit himself

haye as we know is fast, hits hard and well his stamina is a very big ? as are his heavyweight credentials

at the moment with haye pretty much unproven at heavy i would give mason the nod but if haye can beat the giant then i would edge toward haye

JudgeDredd · 09-22-2009, 05:26 AM

Mason might be a bit too heavy handed for Haye

Muchmoore · 09-22-2009, 07:20 AM

Haye isn't blasting Mason out, that's for sure. Lennox is a much harder puncher than Haye and could hardly put a dent in Mason (apart from tearing Mason's eyes up)

Lennox also absorbed a fair bit of punishment from Mason but his under rated chin was able to take it, Haye's wouldn't. Mason had serious power and size, I don't see Haye winning this one...

Mason by mid to late KO.

TBooze · 09-22-2009, 09:18 AM

Haye should be too classy for Mason. If a drug ravaged Biggs almost beat him, I do not see Mason beating Haye.

Haye is going to have to be careful because of his soft chin, and not get too excited because as mentioned Mason had a chin and the heart to go with it, but I can see Haye winning comfortable over the distance.

Haye W10 (7-3)

janitor · 09-22-2009, 09:29 AM

Lets just hang fire a bit on Haye's chin here guys.

We should get some prety definite answers one way or the other during his next few fights.

Muchmoore · 09-22-2009, 10:27 AM

Haye's chin is a ? mark. He was dropped and badly hurt by Mormeck, that's a fact and Mormeck does NOT hit like Mason. It might be servicable but it's safe to say that it isn't very good.

janitor · 09-22-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Muchmoore

Haye's chin is a ? mark. He was dropped and badly hurt by Mormeck, that's a fact and Mormeck does NOT hit like Mason. It might be servicable but it's safe to say that it isn't very good.

Yes but Haye had to nearly kill himself to make weight for the Mormeck fight and people close to him had been advising him to step up instead of taking the fight.

Now we don't know what moving up will do to his chin. It might get better or it might get worse.

TBooze · 09-22-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by janitor

Yes but Haye had to nearly kill himself to make weight for the Mormeck fight and people close to him had been advising him to step up instead of taking the fight.

Now we don't know what moving up will do to his chin. It might get better or it might get worse.

Haye's chin cost him gold in the amateur World Championships. He had some really dodgy moments as a Cruiserweight, before the weight was a issue, and even Monte decked him as a Heavyweight....

As stated above, I still think Haye is a class above anything Mason was, but his chin is always going to be a concern in Heavyweight fights.

Beeston Brawler · 09-22-2009, 12:25 PM

Mason only really fought one good fighter - Lennox Lewis, who was a comparative novice in only his 14th or 15th fight.... whereas Mason had had well over 30.

Frank Maloney wrote in his book that he was very surprised Mason's team took the fight, stating that if he was in their position he would have avoided Lennox like the plague - yet Mickey Duff was of the view that Lewis's team had pushed their man too quickly.

I think Haye's speed would be the factor in this one, but until the last bell goes you cannot rule out Mason. Haye has had stamina issues and has been put flat on his ass by lighter hitters than Gary.

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Mr Butt Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: May 2009 Location: out preaching for the church of benn Posts: 10,120 vCash: 1054	mason vs haye gary mason vs david haye mason may pull off a win here ,yes he was very slow and his stamina was perhaps questionable but he could take a shot and punch a bit himself haye as we know is fast, hits hard and well his stamina is a very big ? as are his heavyweight credentials at the moment with haye pretty much unproven at heavy i would give mason the nod but if haye can beat the giant then i would edge toward haye
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09-22-2009, 05:26 AM	#2
JudgeDredd Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,449 vCash: 187	Re: mason vs haye Mason might be a bit too heavy handed for Haye
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Muchmoore Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,445 vCash: 1000	Re: mason vs haye Haye isn't blasting Mason out, that's for sure. Lennox is a much harder puncher than Haye and could hardly put a dent in Mason (apart from tearing Mason's eyes up) Lennox also absorbed a fair bit of punishment from Mason but his under rated chin was able to take it, Haye's wouldn't. Mason had serious power and size, I don't see Haye winning this one... Mason by mid to late KO.
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TBooze Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South of London Posts: 9,785 vCash: 0	Re: mason vs haye Haye should be too classy for Mason. If a drug ravaged Biggs almost beat him, I do not see Mason beating Haye. Haye is going to have to be careful because of his soft chin, and not get too excited because as mentioned Mason had a chin and the heart to go with it, but I can see Haye winning comfortable over the distance. Haye W10 (7-3)
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09-22-2009, 09:29 AM	#5
janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,045 vCash: 1000	Re: mason vs haye Lets just hang fire a bit on Haye's chin here guys. We should get some prety definite answers one way or the other during his next few fights.
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Muchmoore Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,445 vCash: 1000	Re: mason vs haye Haye's chin is a ? mark. He was dropped and badly hurt by Mormeck, that's a fact and Mormeck does NOT hit like Mason. It might be servicable but it's safe to say that it isn't very good.
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Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: trying to increase my overdraft.... Posts: 35,247 vCash: 75	Re: mason vs haye Mason only really fought one good fighter - Lennox Lewis, who was a comparative novice in only his 14th or 15th fight.... whereas Mason had had well over 30. Frank Maloney wrote in his book that he was very surprised Mason's team took the fight, stating that if he was in their position he would have avoided Lennox like the plague - yet Mickey Duff was of the view that Lewis's team had pushed their man too quickly. I think Haye's speed would be the factor in this one, but until the last bell goes you cannot rule out Mason. Haye has had stamina issues and has been put flat on his ass by lighter hitters than Gary.
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